Sherlock, They Don't Know Jack Schitt

In days of old before the eddiemodgate scandal.

Harvemom: We do have a mole who can see the SSS. Or someone has been careless following links, but I dont think there has been any links for a while.

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/portuguese-friends-room-f56/mole-avoidance-thread-t6815-90.htm

They've copied Lauras comment on this thread in the SSS onto that daft blog something to do with diseased minds:

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/sssection-f79/according-to-the-spite-site-ed-the-spy-ed-not-our-ed-is-in-here-t7841-30.htm

FSoares: I'm with Harversmom. There's a mole or someone inside is pretending. Now there's no doubt.

Harvesmom: Well i've just been through everyone who's logged on since 2pm, and compared the list to who is in the SSS. But of course it doesnt tell you the members that come in as hidden.

FSoares: That's exactly the problem. I need to go to bed, because tomorrow I have to start at 9am, but during the day, if I don't have to go out, I'll keep an eye as well, though I can't be paying too much attention. It'll be just a small control.

Harvesmom: Well i've added all the people who've been in as hidden in the last 24 hours, and to be honest 90 percent of the members of the SSS have been logged on so it hasnt helped much....

David: I am with you both on this. I think someone has been careless clicking links. BUT because the internet is a logical world we need to cover all aspects i.e. eliminate the possibility of a double agent working for the TWATS as FSoares mentioned on SSS...

I still dont believe there is a mole but still....the only way to stop anyone seeing this section is to take it all down.

Ambersuz: I personally dont care what they see so I'll leave it up to all of you to make the decision if it should stay or go

eddiemod: You can see who's hidden - they are in italics [No schitt.]

FSoares: In my opinion, if the section is kept, everybody needs to remember there's someone from the twats (or linked to them) who is registered on this forum, with access to the SSS. What saddens me is knowing we can't talk openly or post something there more sensitive, because they will get access to it. I personally think there's no point in having the section, if there's no privacy. I know many of you generally say "I don't care if they read". Well, I also don't care if they read, IF what I post are merely my opinions. However, sometimes we have things we could say, but we don't because we know they are reading it and that info cannot reach their hands.
It's quite obvious there's a fake identity on the SSS, probably a cloned account, or a double agent. In the present situation the SSS's existence is a pure falacy.

Ambersuz: OK here's what we should do.....

If all the mods look at the members in the SSS and make a list here of who should be in a new section....I know its easier moving them to the Portugal section but thats not fair as that section was set up just for the Portuguese posters and as thats 100% safe I dont want to rock the boat there.

I'd rather have just a few people in the new section...maybe 15 or 20 and leave it at that.

Obviously all the mods are in....so who else can be trusted and who are you all comfortable with?

FSoares: I have no idea about carlymichelle, except she is a computer game addict and she posts in all forums related to Australian TV. She's been bad mouthed by the Twats & Co, and according to it, my bet would be on someone else, though. However, Carlymichelle can be used by someone (posing as a friend) to get the contents and info from her.

Claudia79: Well, as I'm a Benfica supporter I've been telling lies to myself for quite some time! [No schitt, Liverpool 4 Benfica 1]

eddiemod: Firstly Amber, please don't think we're all in Paranoid City here....I just have instincts, I watch that person and I just 'feel' that person is odd.

Ok secondly, I understand when you say that so what it doesn't matter if there is a mole - I agree. It's just bloody annoying that's all.

Thirdly, if I were a mole on a forum I would be IT smart (smarter than most too) I would already have 3 or 4 ID's (all very different) in case one of them was found out and I would use different email addys, and IP's etc etc

So in a nutshell I will look at the list and tell you what I think, we'll all compare lists and go from there.

Ambersuz: One thing I'd like to say is I will not add Laffin to the list as he gets drunks and sprouts off nonsense......its not that I dont trust him but I just cant be bothered with his rants and me having to clear up his acusations.

Dont get me wrong......I'm the first one to expose people but only those ones who are attacking the forum and I'll only expose with proof....Nessling i believe was at one stage but Deuce I dont have any evidence of.

Picking on anyone because they are friends of, is not going to be allowed in the future as it adds us to their enemy list.

Photon asked me a few weeks back to let Laffin into the Portuguese section and I said NO way! [No schitt, Sherlock]

Claudia79: Marky just made me raise my eyebrows on the SSS.

eddiemod: I agree about Laffin. [No schitt]

Ok here's the list of SS members I have crossed the ones I don't trust or don't know enough:

Maybe everyone else can do the same?


Alfiefinn
Alpine Aster
Ambersuz
Angelina
antiCS
Antoinette
Badboy
Bren
Captnmorgan
carlymichelle
Claudia79
David
dazedandconfused
deborah
eddie
fishie
Frangendapenik
Frankie Stein
fred
FSoares
fuzeta
Gobsmacked
Hare
Harvesmom
jjp
julygirl3210
Kazlux
Laffin Assasin
Laurie
Lioned
mara thon
Marky
MCXLIII
MJH1901
MoondampRoses
MsTaken
Mumbles
Pabby
patat
Patchouli
Photon
pm
Poinksy
ProfMoriarty
Quincy
rammy
Reggie Dunlop
roisin
sprite
The Famous Grouse
the one and only big_l
xklamation

ps Deborah is crazy that's why she's crossed and I don't particularly care for photon but haven't crossed her. [No schitt]

Eddie says: Next episode tomorrow...

SSSection Lite

Members of SSSection seem to be slowly disappearing as the search for the mole goes on.

Moley is still there though.

Claudia79 fancies George Clooney. :)


"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Temper Temper

"FFS I don't care anymore I have not told anyone to hound [redacted] over this, I don't care if it is true or not, I am just fúckíng sick of being dragged into things which I am not party to and those that know the truth fail to speak out. Sorry but this has now gone beyond a joke, I am not responsible for what others do, I do not hold guns to peoples head and tell them to do this or else. He made [redacted]'s life hell, [redacted] was being blamed for being someone on a forum when he was not, [redacted] and I could not allow that, [redacted] was sassy on his crappy forum and we could not allow [redacted] to take the blame. Do I regret putting him right, yes and no. Yes in the way it was done but no for putting him straight. Perhaps it would have been best just to come out and admit on 3a's (sic) that [redacted] can't be sassy because [redacted] is and end it there, hindsight is a wonderful thing. But we wanted to still try and keep sassy in the forum to find out what was being said and what attacks were being said.

There is a whole lot of truth that none of you know and truth that will never be spoken, no matter how much it needs to be told, but I know for a fact it is because of the truth that [redacted], [redacted] and myself are so viciously attacked. Well it is getting to the point where I don't care if I have one friend or not in this whole mess I will end up speaking it. [redacted] is a stirrer along with the rest of them.

I have never given anybodies (sic) details out to anybody, no matter what is being said. But a lot of things have dawned on me today and I can see things a whole lot clearly. And I am washing my hands of the whole bloody lot of it. Just because I spoke out about those names being put out, it seems I am being slayed for that. As I said these people know the truth, they were all there and they just find it so easy to blame those that were not even party to it and only heard it second hand, just shows what guts they really do have."

Ratting On Each Other

"Is this [redacted]'s office address? How did they get that?"

Reply:

"The only person who knows that is [redacted, cough] as he sent the booklets here....my office is not in any way connected to my name so you wont (sic) find the company online unless you know the name of it....try googling my name and if you find a connection to my office then I'll eat my hat!"

Someone else was outed too, country roads, nudge nudge wink wink.

Concerning Moles

"I've tried to look at IP's (sic) here to see if people coming from another forum are known and I cannot see it....so I am sure on other forums it cannot be traced back here but people on blogs must be able to see it....I must ask [redacted] if I can put a link here to her blog, click directly to it and see if she can trace me back to here...."

Reply:

"To read the contents of threads here, they might need to alter some numerical sequence on the referrer link. For instance, on the link I posted as an example, I've altered from 21 to 22. Those without access, trip on the link ending on "21" but changing to "22", it's like being registered. So, even if they can do it, they will just read one specific page from the thread they got the referrer. However, it would be good to not click on any link posted here, because even if they can't read it back, they will know right away the thread's name."

Reply:

"Yes thats (sic) exactly what I thought....its (sic) much the same when you click on a cached page...you only see that particular one.

So basically no mole"

Reply:

"The truth is that if there was anything juicy for them to find and crow about - they would have done so. In reality I suspect that if there is a mole, then that mole is probably bored out of his/her mind by the lack of posts here for them to find fault with."

Reply:

"Oh there's a mole alright (sic, not our house style) but she cannot give them any details that would make them happy as its (sic) all about their trolling friends

What she's looking for is personal stuff about us and there is none here....thats (sic) what she's been ordered to take back.

If they all thought some of us didnt (sic) know about this well they thought wrong....I let her stay and she knows it...I knew their game but they didnt (sic) know mine.... "

Getting Stick

It gets to them sometimes.

"[redacted]....we had a whole section about Sky rants if you remember.....no one complained about that....why because you all knew what the Sky lot were like and you all bitched about them and made fun of them most of the time AND it was all out in the open unlike this one where we can say what we feel and not have our every word challenged!

The thing is....now I'm admin here and we took on all the 3A members I am the one getting the stick for it just like [redacted] took the stick for being admin of the 3A's (sic)....none of the other mods are getting called names day in and day out....I have a right to defend myself just like you all did day and night on the Sky rant threads and on the other private one for detectives!....we had a whole section about Sky rants if you remember.....no one complained about that....why because you all knew what the Sky lot were like and you all bitched about them and made fun of them most of the time AND it was all out in the open unlike this one where we can say what we feel and not have our every word challenged!

The thing is....now I'm admin here and we took on all the 3A members I am the one getting the stick for it just like [redacted] took the stick for being admin of the 3A's (sic)....none of the other mods are getting called names day in and day out....I have a right to defend myself just like you all did day and night on the Sky rant threads and on the other private one for detectives!"

I Vill Make A Rule

Power-crazed or what?

"I knew [redacted] would blame someone else. And [redacted] replied to me about one of my posts I made about him, I have told him never to contact me again and that I will be setting up a rule that he will get DO NOT CONTACT ME ANYMORE replies should he try."

Someone is Getting Touchy

...and swings into action.

"[redacted] playing games and posting cryptic messages - nothing new - but his methodology is flawed when he has to be tipped off.

Perhaps we should all do as [redacted] admits he does and simply play forum games.

It isn't what I came to the forums for though. I suspect lots of people have just allowed themselves to be dragged into the nastiness. Well good luck to the lot of them. They are beneath contempt.

Email and chat with who you like [redacted] and play whatever games you like - enjoy it all and talk whatever gibberish you want.

I will restrict my reading now to serious posters who are not deliberately playing sick games on the memory of a small child, whose motives are not self and ego and vindictiveness, who are not hypocritical by nature and whose interest is the actual case.

Once again you have repeated a question which I have already answered. You did that last night as well. To repeat - I don't intend to stoop as low as those who post up private details everywhere.

First time I have blocked a poster on any forum but consider it done as soon as I find the place to do it. I am fed up with your cryptic comments and game playing and inability to read the answers that you are given.

If this post sees me banned from this forum then so be it."

Superflounce

"This has got way out of hand now, there is no alternative but to shut these forums down and just give up on this case. There is a whole lot of truth out there that people do not know and unless we go down to their level it will never be known.

I can't sit back and watch [redacted] and [redacted] be destroyed like this and neither can I see other mods threatened that their lives will be exposed by associating themselves with me.

I wish [redacted] all the best, and thanks for allowing me to post here. If you could delete my account [redacted] then perhaps they will lay off you a bit."

Reply:

"This is a very, very sad day. [redacted] has taken a huge amout (sic) of shit for being Admin of 3As (the original) and now Headlines and the New 3As. Despite all of that she has put a phenomenal amount of work into keeping the forums running not to mention dealing with the fall out of the two separate Mod exoduses, and the anxiety and stress surrounding the [redacted] debacle and the later 'open back door' which led to the theft of the database backup files. She didn't deserve a millionth of what was handed out to her. [The opposition] have greater manpower - and the core of them came prepared. They knew the rules of engagement - we didn't. It's very considerate of [redacted] to think of her mods/friends - I very grateful for that (and for lots of other things too).

But - the opposition are not going to give up just because you've gone [redacted]."

She's gone, she's back, she's gone, she's back...

The Plug-in

"What feckin part of I could not read your PM's do you not undertand (sic), the PM's (sic)that were shown to me were extracted by [redacted] not myself and I read them in an MSN conversation and not via the forum. Nobody has denied that [redacted] extracted them and [redacted] and I read them, he feckin admitted it himself on the forum when the question was raised and he also posted that I could not do it. But still hare you want to accuse of me of knowing about plug-ins etc, I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT ANY FECKIN PLUG INS.. Get it. So you can take your accusations shove them up your arse and set light to them for all I care Hare, because you are just as bad as twats etc.

And by the way if you realised within 5 minutes that he had installed a plug in why the feck did you not warn me or any of the other mods. You just make me sick.

You saw this happening and never mentioned it to anyone.......thanks a lot hare and by the way whilst we are on the subject, I agreed with you when you were carrying on hell for leather at [redacted], because I thought you were right in what you were saying, he should have taken more responsibility for what he did and for allowing the database to be exposed."

...

"Don't talk over me [redacted], I am here and answering you. I was told by [redacted] he did this because [redacted] was posting comments accusing admin of things and not spilling the beans about what she was supposed to have known, even though he had asked her outright and so had I on various threads. Was it wrong, yes it was, sorry but I was being lead to believe the forum was being compromised and he saw it as a threat and that was his excuse for doing it.

Personally I would have banned [redacted] for not putting up what she was accusing Admin of and got rid of her as a troublemaker.

But hand on heart [redacted], I did not know about any plug-in and I bet I am the only fecker that never downloaded the database that [redacted] exposed. And I never downloaded the database from the links that was exposed by [redacted]'s working practices. My god don't you think I wish I had, because if I had I would have taken that to another host and got shot of him."

You Cannot Be Serious

Listen up. The Sauce and The Little Birdie are well and currently active.








Get it now? Time to close it. Eddie wins.

Non E Piu (It Is No More)

The mind of a pitchforker at work.

"Please don't take offence [redacted], but this stems from people wanting the likes of the 3a's (sic) forum off the internet. Underhand tactics were being played by people and instead of the usual pro v anti it turned sinister and started to make anti turn on anti and this was being done via lies and deceit. I know 3a's (sic) is dead and gone but I think we really need to get to the bottom of who was playing all the games because even thought they succeeded with 3a's (sic) it has been a tried and tested measure and it will not be long before they start here. That I am certain of. Already they tried to cause [redacted] problems by faking a PM and making out she was sending it to some mods and not others.

Sorry to say this is just not trolls at work, this is someone who in my opinion is paid to cause all these problems for forums that are discussing the case. Now the only way of really beating them is to expose them and show them up for what they are, deniers of justice."

Trouble At T'Mill

"No high horse at all. No lecture at all. Read the post - it was not condescending (as from a high horse) nor was it in any way similar to a lecture.

I was simply expressing bafflement at a totally odd post that looked as if it was really a lost pm back to an individual member, who had earlier communicated by email with you, rather than a constructive post. I was expressing the fact that I was unable to understand the post as it seemed to contain references only one other poster might understand. I was not attempting to be rude to you, just making it clear that I was tired and was unable to understand.

As for influence - yes I was a volunteer mod/co-admin on one previous forum. That doesn't give a person a massive amount of influence, you know. The forum owners/admin have the influence and can instantly rid themselves of any mod or co-admin who they no longer want. It was a very time-consuming task. Ask any mod how much time it took to try to keep that forum afloat, especially when on the one hand there were large numbers of posters who had the direct intention of destroying the place and ON THE OTHER HAND THERE WERE POSTERS WHOSE POSTING STYLE WAS OFTEN GUARANTEED TO INFLAME SITUATIONS (either because they were drunk while posting, because they were unable to control their own emotions, or because they were deliberately confrontational).

I did not pull the plug on 3As. I have explained this, as honestly and clearly as I could before, but will repeat it for the benefit of yourself and others who may not have seen that earlier explanation.

At a time when there were only a very small number of largely inexperienced mods and myself around - the leaflets in Rothley affair blew up. I contacted [redacted] without any success whatsoever. He refused to respond - though I know for certain that he was in contact with a former mod of the forum. I had very good advice at the time (later proven absolutely correct) that the content of a large number of posts to that date were liable to be pounced on by certain lawyers (as [redacted] found to his cost (literally)). The moderation team at that point was unable to undertake the work necessary to check and purge the forum. The other co-admin was on holiday. I felt I had no option at all but to close the forum to public view. I explained at the time on the site and in other places what I had done and that I was trying to contact [redacted]. As for pulling the plug - I had no power whatsoever to do that - I had no access to the server or to the facilities to close the forum.

Your insult that I skulked away is also incorrect. One other factor that contributed to my decision to close the forum to public view was that I was booked to go away on holiday (for a month) just a couple of days after I closed it. At that point the 3As which was owned by [redacted] and had one administrator, again [redacted], would have been without any admin or co-admin for a week as my holidays co-incided (sic) with the other co-admin. It would have resulted in a small group of junior mods being responsible for a very busy forum without sufficient powers to be able to deal with problems at a time when such problems were almost inevitable. Therefore I 'parked' the forum. I repeat I did not 'pull the plug'.

As for 'socks'. At the direct request of [redacted] I created one 'sock' which served a testing purpose for him. I also used 2 other 'socks' at a later date. I am afraid my memory does not stretch back far enough to recall how many posts were made, nor have I any method of now checking the facts but I think it was around a dozen - all made with the sole intention of attempting to ensure the safety of the 3As forum - believe it or not.

I stated I had no intention of raising these issues again in the post I made when temporarily (as I thought) closing the 3As forum. Your ill-informed post gave me no option.

And I am not now skulking away - I am going out to enjoy my Sunday breakfast and lunch with friends.

ps - Yes, maybe this post could be described as being from 'on a high horse' but this one was meant to be."

Announcement

I'd just like to tell you all that I have found a way of reading the secret part.

Just to show you that this is true, I can say that the last thread is murat-fan-has-my-photos-on-her-blog-t7476-75.htm

Remember...

An announcement will be made on here tomorrow at 3pm PST, 11pm GMT.

Infiltrated Did He Say?

"Just face it, the forum, is well infiltrated, I have a different style of dealing with them than others do, I am a tw@t, they hate me, I don't care, but for all you polite and decent people, I'm prepared to take the hit's (sic), I know some of you don't agree with my style, but please trust me on this, I can see through some of them as soon as they put their first post up."

Yes, of course you can. Not.

Another Silly Plan

"I'm going to take the forum down for 10 minutes - to see reactions.

going going gone"

Later...

"Well I was hoping all the trolls would be running around like headless chickens....if they did it today with the MF when its only being updated then 2 Maddie forums down in one day would make their week....

little do they know that both are very safe and wont be going anywhere!"

Later...

"I'm sorry if I scared the genuine members here and on others forums but as I said I was getting fed up of the paranoia about the MF on here tonight and seeing people attacking (redacted) on other forums so I made the decision and (redacted) said to use her number!

I only meant to take it down for 10 minutes but I had to take an important phone call so it was a bit longer!"

Little Do They Know

p: is this the first or second set of ex-mods? (JAT or FTT)

cm: JAT

D: I got my IP banned with JAT and I was only reading! I use a proxy now to have a look at the dreadful threads

cm: lol i use proxys (sic) too

A: Me too now although I cant (sic) from the office....

I'll bet BB1 isnt (sic) boasting about this forum now....as I'm sure none of them can access it!



Sure?

A Small Rant

"Actually Laffin scrap that previous post, who the hell do you think you are talking to? Just because I won't tell you things that happened between the mods and admin of the 3a's, which is actually NONE of your business, how dare you accuse me of walking away?

If I was walking away, I would have started a forum without a Madeleine section and not sat up for nearly two nights copying the DVD forum over twice so that members could have access to the files.

Your bully boy tactics do not wash with me Laffin, so don't even try it."

It's All A Big Conspiracy Apparently

"There's so many of them, on at all times of day and night (or rather there were,'til recent bannings (sic) ). I really do believe the majority of them are paid to do it (though some will always do it free as a labour of hate).

It wouldn't suprise (sic) me if either the McCanns or the MMU [Ed: government??] were involved. After all the fund accounts did show an amount spent on a 'poster' campaign, which could possibly be construed in a number of ways. And some disruptions of particular threads have always appeared (to me) to have an orchestrated air about them, in order to try and kill certain thread, there are sometimes patterns, if you look carefully, imo.

There are also, though, those who disrupt purely from mischief and malice and a misplaced sense of 'loyalty' and intellectual superiority."