A Serious Matter

Ambersuz wrote:

"eds, if Bren's jealous of this forum why on earth did she give me all the information on the past 3A members to compare to the members here? How do you think I know who the trolls are? It isn't through my instincts!!"

That's right, the admin of one forum took personal details of her members and gave them to the admin of another forum.

I need to add no more.

Case study- 3As hasbeens, googlestalking and YOU

A poster with the nickname Housebythesea took rightful umbrage to an unprompted attack by Laffin Assasin on MM.
Apparently Laffin did not like the poster's avatar.

MM moderator Antoinette decided to apologise.
Now witness how the 3As gang use the flimsiest of excuses to google stalk a poster:



Antoinette:

I feel bad for HBTS though. She didn't do anything wrong and is getting dragged into this. I'm going to post an explanation to her on the
thread to explain.

Good idea....Woof!!

jjp:

Just one thought - I wonder what HBTS actually googled to find that avatar? It certainly was not 'house by the sea'.

Enter Hercule Poirot.

Bren:

No I have been through 50 pages of google pictures .

Only 50?

FSoares:

And there's a little of arrogance on her last post. I can understand her reasons, but it's up to her to say or to leave. I'm too tired to type today and answer her, but she doesn't need to lecture anyone now.

Add a dash of character assassination.......


Marky:

maybe downloaded from a camera/phone and uploaded from the pc. wouldn't be unheard of would it?

Sounds reasonable. Back on track......

Photon:

But that's not how they said they acquired it Marky - they said it was randomly chosen from a google search. on Studies site. Obviously, only mods can vouch for this accuracy of this quote. But, if it's accurate, I would say that HBTS is lying (again) imho.

Oh Dear. Poster says they randomly chose the image from google. 3As hasbeens cannot find said image in google therefore poster is evil.
Angelina:

I don't quite understand...what is the relevance of that picture? Is it someone's house on here?

Good Question.

Photon:

It seems to be relevant to Laffin, if you read the PM exchange that HBTS forwarded to the mods (posted on Diseased Subjects blog).


"It seems to be relevant to Laffin"
There you have it!
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Recap:

Laffin Assasin made a veiled threat to another person's children on an alleged missing children's forum and was banned by Eddiemod.
Laffin Assasin also threatened another poster(HBTS) because he was suspicious of the poster's avatar.(I'm not kidding, dogs don't lie and that.)

What was the result?
Eddiemod was banned (and just to be crystal clear, Eddiemod has never given information to this blog.)
Laffin Assasin was reinstated on the forum.
HBTS resigned and was subsequently googlestalked by the 3As hasbeens because they could not locate the image in google.

A Small Rant

"Actually Laffin scrap that previous post, who the hell do you think you are talking to? Just because I won't tell you things that happened between the mods and admin of the 3a's, which is actually NONE of your business, how dare you accuse me of walking away?

If I was walking away, I would have started a forum without a Madeleine section and not sat up for nearly two nights copying the DVD forum over twice so that members could have access to the files.

Your bully boy tactics do not wash with me Laffin, so don't even try it."

A Cunning Plan

"Best way to beat them is imo going underground. I know everyone wants to get the word out but sometimes google can be your enemy as well as your friend. If I was in Debbie and Tony's shoes now, I would completely do a 180 and offer to work alongside the McCann's in order to get the case re-opened and to get Leicester Police active on the case, something we all know the McCann's do not want. And I would definitely bypass Clarence Mitchell in all of this, I know it would cost a bit, but to take an ad out in the British Tabloids and to do a statement and pay for it's print might be away of forcing the McCann's hand. Just imagine what the public's reaction would be if they declined such help. You know thinking about this Tony and Debbie could spin this better than Clarence Mitchell ever could, might mean having to eat humble pie a bit, but with the right phrases and objections, it could put Team McCann in a right old spin, especially if it was printed in every tabloid."

Daft or what?

That was then, of course...

Bren to Traveller:

I have been to hell and back over this last month along with the other mods and we are not going back down this route again and having things dragged up from the past.

But I would still appreciate an answer as to why Marian posted up that you and her were leaving without even having the decency to discuss it with me.

Yes you are seeing a whole new Bren, one that is not going to be manipulated and one that is in charge of this set up whether certain people like it or not. I am sorry it has come to this Graeme but you are being totally unfair and biased towards Pat and I will not accept that. Pat is honest, loyal and what you see is what you get, and I would prefer to work with Pat any day of the week than work with someone like Jan and her friends who are liars, cheats and deceivers. I am sorry Graeme but I have removed your permissions, this is exactly how things were going on before all this trouble, mods deciding who they can work with and who will go and I am not going back down that road again. To read on the forum that you and Marian were leaving was the final straw. All I have ever asked for is honesty and transparency but today I realised that I would not be getting that. Pat has done nobody any wrong, her only failing was to speak up for those that have been frightened to or for those that she could see were being manipulated, she does not deserve this treatment and I will not stand back and see her treated like this again. We knew damn well Jan would probably try and get to you like she got to the other mods but hey that is your perogative if you wish to believe her I can not force anybody to believe me or the other mods, even though we are speaking the truth. You do not not know what mind games have been played on each and everyone of us. Just cast your mind back to when Pat first joined us, she was NEVER like this, but those that had an ulterior motive have hurt her more than anyone can imagine. They have instilled on other mods that Pat is a monster and there is no way that Pat is that and I will not have that said to her. Because you don't know how much my head was screwed and you don't know how much she worked to help me out, even after what I had done to her and how she held things altogether for me and most importantly for this forum so Maddie can have a voice. And for that I will be enternally grateful to Pat for.

Ah, the good old days. Whatever happened to them?

Bren to fedupwaiting:

It was pulled by a mod, Tony Bennett likes us to discuss his campaigns but once someone mentions anything about him or his reasons for doing the campaign Admin get loads of e-mails from him complaining. So we have decided you can't have it both ways, either we are allowed to discuss everything or nothing, so he carried on complaining so we decided to stop all discussion about his campaign and the Madeleine Foundation.

You were being watched Jasper...and PFA was 'worth trying to infiltrate'

Bren to Stevo:

Subject: Email from a Journalist re: The McCann Fund Fraud

Hi Steve

You are being set up. There is a thread on this site (Pro site) have a read. Venus is jasper and she is on there wondering if you took emails when you were admin here. Just thought I would warn you

Here is the link

http://www.profenceanti.

Anyway it's up to you if you want to go after them. But it smells of a pro trick. Jasper has been on that site since November and now shows up shouting off.

Will leave it with you.

Bren

P.S. Worth trying to infiltrate they have a forum that is away from public viewing all about 3a's and last time before the bannings came there were threads about Tony on there.

'no fear of Tony leaving us'

Bren to lilyofthevalley

Hi

Thanks for contacting me we are monitoring nicked, and don't fear I am in contact with Debbie Butler and I don't think there is any fear of Tony leaving us. In fact I think he wants to know exactly who nicked is.

Nicked does tend to let things slip when she gets irate, but don't worry we are going to rein in nicked a bit.

Bren

Would that be achieved by making sure she can't post on certain threads, by any chance?

Don't mention libel FGS!!!

Dear Sev.

I am sorry but I have no alternative but to warn you about the comment you posted on the Open/Closed Forum.

You were basically saying that people were open to more serious libel actions. You a hold an important postion as a moderator and as I own the domain and have the responsibility for what happens to the domain and its legal situation, I think that is my duty to decide and do not want moderators/admins posting statements like that trying to influence the members. I have taken this action because I think the members have had enough libel/legal threats thrown at them on the DM and they shouldn't have to have them stated here.

If you had serious concerns you should have posted them in the moderators forum, which was designed specifically for this purpose, and not on the public forum. Or they could have been PM'd to me directly for me to discuss with Admin if necessary.

In future please could you use the moderators forum for your concerns and not place them on the public forum for them to view.

Bren

Fibbing again....

Re: Interesting

Thanks Kazlux if you can tell me whether it was the HTFM or the Pro Madeleine Boards I would be happy and I will say I received it anonymously in my e-mail account.

Bren

Special 200th Post: A summary of the story so far

For Beo, money determines priorities: "Don't expect me to do the same as I do for paying clients that have critical servers managed by me. I know also we should care for members security but its (sic) not a responsability (sic) we should take eavily (sic)." Beo
The Portuguese investigators cleared Robert Murat, but Bren and Bennett have expressed their doubts
If inside info was worth money, Photon’s made Laffin a millionaire.
Laffin can’t spell genious (sic)
Photon thinks the sexual abuse threads are ‘dangerous.’ But just to the site.
Laffin likes Tony Bennett, but would be happy to know whatever Viv had on him.
Laffin has made specific threats involving Molotov cocktails.
Laffin has made general threats including "I know where some of them live, they'll regret crossing me."
Bren thinks it’s all OK because, after all, people get upset when they’re unfairly accused of shagging goats. Apparently being unfairly accused of killing your child is something one just sucks up.
Bren’s opinion of Bennett, at some point, was ‘not very high’. Thankfully she is/was bound and determined the forum would not ‘be used as a platform for his campaign.’
Stevo, on an unrelated matter, thinks Bren ‘lost it’
Maybe she did. Bren won’t pass on admin info to just anybody, but she’s certainly passed it on to Stevo.
But sometimes she tells him to stop outing members.
Janz says Bren thinks some respected members are ‘mentally challenged.’ Luckily, Janz says Bren doesn’t think that’s a banning offense.
Miffed thinks Bren needs support "despite her clumsiness and sometimes hasty or stupid decisions."
Stevo told Humanist who told Kezwalk ‘Bren owns porn sites’
Bren says she’s never voting BNP. NEVER.
Scylla gave Bren advice on how to rule the forum with an iron hand. I’m glad I’m not her husband.
Bugalugs doesn’t multitask: "All i can say is one day....when my nippers are all grown up......i would do time with great pride for a shot at Kate McCann. You have yourself a merry Christmas too Big L."
Bugalugs, at some point, thought the 3As was "dirty". She'd know from dirty, yeah?
Bugalugs called a most respected member "little lafin arsin"
ShuBob thought the mods were "stifling" debate
Cushty thinks Amaral was ‘mad’ to associate with the 3Arguidos
Estelle cuts and pastes articles even if she "doesn’t believe them."
But she gets away with it, others say, because "she's chummy with some mods and bjr"
Beachy "no longer feel(s) the same way I used to feel about 3A." Ga, how long would she blather if she did?
Rival old bagpipe Chimaera bolted on the "embarrassingly unpopular" Oxford event. To be fair, one actually has to get up off one’s arse to attend before one could then bolt.
Chimaera did however get off her arse to do a ghoul run through Rothley. Probably it was on the way.
Doris gets pissed off when respected members are all talk and no action. But really, dear, there’s only so many sheets on a loo roll. Not everybody could have some stuck to their shoe even if they wanted to.
Doris’ pet name for Viv is Andrex.
Doris so hoped someone could add some threats in a bubble coming out of Gerry McCann’s mouth. Potty mouth.
Doris is no Scarlett O'Hara.
Builda will not cyberstalk any woman over 49.
Sez Bren: "Now if I was going to out someone, I would find all the info on the person who I thought they were linked to and go from there."
Also sez Bren: "What is discussed in Mod box about IP tracing etc should stay there."
Abuela gives info on people’s private lives to Tripz, as long as he won’t tell anybody
Stevo and princess_leia cyberinvestigated Vivida
DrachenSachen port scanned. Kinda sorta against the TOS of, oh, every internet service provider on the planet. Except in Russia. Possibly.
Snivelling Mole likes to cyber snoop on Facebook.
Arguida’s rule of thumb is "trust no one" on the site.
Anna Smith's view is "VITRIOLIC WEBSITE FORUM IS HOME FOR SPINELESS COWARDS." Now where did she get that idea?
At the worst of times, one respected member was "scared I might take someone's baby".
People like Tony_Q make Ferretmama ashamed to be British.
Tony_Q pms people things like: what the fuc.k are you going on about now shit.forbrains?? He also doesn’t like the ‘Jew press.’ He remains unbanned.
Even though Captain Moron doesn’t like him.
Captain Moron also doesn’t like to mod alone at night. She doesn’t "know what to do with the weirdos." Mind you, that's all she has left these days, so possibly she's revisited that position. Revisiting is like when someone resigns forever and returns within 48 hours.
On an unrelated matter, Roisin wonders "who the hell" Captain Moron thinks she is.
Mumof5 wonders what 3As members are like real life. Not in a good way.
Hardly anybody has anything good to say about Blossom.
Most days, most members seem to wonder who everybody else is. Thankfully, they all have an opinion:
Chimaera: SallyGardens is Kay Scarpetta
Chimaera: Granofeleven is Kay Scarpetta
Chimaera: fft is Kay Scarpetta
Blondie2: Earthspirit is Norah and Harmony and FFT and Kay Scarpetta
Logicman: FarFrom is Gerry McCann
Bren: FarFrom is ‘a close family relation from Gerrys (sic) side’
Potsy: Earthspirit is FFT
Blondie2: Earthspirit is a member of Team McCann
Earthspirit: "many of the vile people on this site are team mccann"
Blondie2: Tylersmum is a member of Team McCann
Blonide2: Tylersmum is a team of people
Chrissie: Sentinel is a member of Team McCann
Chrissie: Tripz is a member of Team McCann
Christie: Laffin is a member of Team McCann
Beachy: Gestalt is a member of Team McCann
Foxylady: Caralina, Stinky Sardine and Albym are Team McCann
JillyComeLately: Caralina is a member of Team McCann
LillyoftheValley: nicked is a member of Team McCann
JillyComeLately: nicked is a member of Team McCann
JillyComeLately: " Team McCann had, at the last count 135 chimps/astroturfers/sock puppets on their payroll"
Donna: Emma2 is a member of Team McCann
Sally66: DeBunker is a member of Team McCann
Beachy: DeBunker is justlurking and a member of Team McCann
Potsy: newbie is DeBunker
Coldwater: DeBunker is twiglet1963, RRR, and HarveyHumphries
K4REN171: DeBunker is BJR, Nbrado, Princess Sukita, MoeSzyslak, Nicholass, TIREDOFTHEBS, FarFromThe, Scylla, Justin, Elizabeth, Shoperoo, and Poppyflowers (who also uses the fourm to flood with posts from other sources Plath, Beach, Cookie, Betwise, Tiny, Mairyhinge, Muratslawyer, Muratsglasses, Lindz07, DRACHENSACHEN/Rhodes, and P20)
LaffinAssassin: DeBunker is SlyFox
Blackwater: DeBunker is Nbrado
ScotBot: Nbrado is DeBunker in disguise
Vexiana: Rhodes is DeBunker
ShuBob: "To be honest, I can't keep up with these debunker people"
jkh: "who is DeBunker?"
Wiseman: DominicanDave is sammysnake and AliceM
Marian: Tony_Q is Tony Bennett
Marian: Hippychick is CrystalTips and MazMod
Lizzy: ChinaGirl is Kate
Blacksmith: Gestalt is Mumbles
Miffed: Rumpleteaser is Verbatim
Miffed: Positron is Verbatim
Dinsdale Piranha: Verbatim is Wag
UncleMonty: Lovemedo is Verbatim
RRR: Verbatim is positron and snoop and rocket
Miffed: JREWING is Helmetheid
R_MuratsGlasses: Blondie is Nbrado
Blondie2: Nbrado is Grimly
Arguida: Nbrado is DixonCox
Arguida: Nbrado is "a bunch of other people"
RRR: Sir R is Prof Moriarty is SirR
Whatever: SallyGardens is Gardenia
Coldwater: Blossom is Terrybull
Hellothere is TheGoverner and maybe CheeseMaster
Vancouver1: Gestalt is Gerry or one of the T9
SnivellingMole: DairyMilk is Tyra
Rammy: JillyComeLately is Go Get ‘Em Goncalo
LilyoftheValley: Fox is one of the T7 (where’d the other two go? Woof)
Joline: Fox is Rosie
Oldcrone: Truth M’Lud is NurseProstlink
LaffinAssassin: Splodgeboy is Truth M’Lud
Blacksmith: Logicman is Coldwater
Blondie2: Sentinel says Coldwater is PsychicSarah
Rammy: Sentinel is Retribution
Chrissie: Sentinel is Gerry
Sentinel: "they are delusional fools, some of whom believe that i am gerry mccann or Clarence"
But what’s in a name? It’s the thought that counts. And because I’m a sniffer dog, not an air traffic controller, lets 100% let the respected members speak for themselves in the backstabbing department:
"beachy is another fantasist. probably worked in the police typing pool." Sentinel
"Beachy is shocking because she gives quite different life stories to you, which insidiously wrap around your own life. When she realised I was from Suffolk, she fabricated a story about her family home in Ipswich. When I asked her on the Mirror Forum (when I had a different name), she told me a different story, based around Brighton. I have pages of stuff from her, as do others, and they are totally irreconcilable. And her "cases" are complete fiction." JimH
"Beachy is a fraud and judging by the number of supportive pms I've received, I don't think I'm alone in this belief. I have most her pms saved and although it pains me to say it (I do honestly like a lot of her posts), she fabricates stuff in a pathological and disturbing fashion. Even Redsquare (who I think is pretty much impeachable in terms of integrity) thinks she is full of bullshit." Pogacsa
"Hi Laffin is a resident. As a rule of thumb, any name with 3 consonants, or even multple ie 6, will usually be a resident and pro Mccann and/or pro Murat." TTW4
"laffin is a disruptor...believe me..." Tripz
"I am not defending Laffin by any means but you must understand when things like you shag goats are printed on sites it is only natural to get very offended and go after these people." Admin
"you probably see my topic in repsonse to kezwalk whata bitch he/she is" carlymichelle
"Snivelling Mole gets right up my nose, as she just wants to gossip about them in a bitchy way." horsegirl
"Oh Lorriane WTF....Nasty what a bitch (Gran)..." Willow
"you've got to admit that carlymichelle's post are probably the most irritating on the forum... i know the poor lady is ill but...anything to deter her from posting is a good thing no?" astromum
"Bugalugs is a cheeky git - telling me to go and shut the door behind me. Who do these people think they are?" Poppyflowers
"Bugalugs was so rude without reason....didnt realise it was so bad with some people here to be honest..." pinkpixiexx
"He hasn't changed. He was an asshole then, and he's an asshole now. (Nbrado)" Beachy
"OMG have you just seen what he's (Tony_Q) said, although admin have deleted it l thought l'd send it to show you what an idiot we've conversed with tonight." Margaret
"the man's an idiot. you can drive a coach and horses through his arguments. good job he wasn't a barrister." Cushty
"What do you think Stevo's up to? Is he aligned with TB, just playing naive or is he really an idiot?" LittleGreyCell
"TRIPZ is a BULLY and you are no better for sticking up for him." Potatoe Head to jjp
"Sorry, had you (Qwerty) down for a moron for a while - obviously just a pious prick - Daddy." Markmirfin
"I have no time for the ignorant man (Stevo). I can't bear to enter his threads." xxdelly
"Very strange individual (Stevo), I know that some of us could be construed as being a bit obsessed in trying to work out what has happened to Madeleine but multiple websites are obsessive imo." xxdelly
"What a twat. (Stevo) " writer lynn

You have to wonder whether they actually hate the McCanns as much as they hate each other. But they won’t tell you that to your face.

PS: A copper’s advice to Bren: ‘switch off the PC.’

CarlyMichelle is still waiting for an answer on her offer to mod.

Laffin assures us he is of ‘previous good character.’

And I purposely left out the fact that jjp advertises for sex hook ups with couples and says he has an average sized dick. Which is scary because everybody adds at least three inches on the internet.

Really, what is it you awful people actually think you're accomplishing? Even if you were right with your wild, discredited theories, your character wouldn't survive the first paragraph in News of the World.

More to come. WOOF!

Vintage Night of a Thousand Knives Bugalugs I

Bugalugs embraces Multi-cultural Britain

Bugalugs to Bren:

Yeah thats me an effing angel.......always have been

You sound a lot like me with your moans and grumbles on the train..thats the sort of thing i do on a daily basis. I use the sainsburys petrol station by me and all the staff are Asian. When you go in they are jib jabbering in Hindu/Urdu or whatever and just stick out ther hand for your money....i'm always as akward as possible, like asking to look at something on the shelf behind them (batteries or whatever). One time i asked for baccy and a receipt and when the woman never gave it to me i asked again in an irrtated voice, she said "i never heard you"; so i said "yeah you was too busy chatting to your mate"; so she said "i was talking about work"; so i said "well i couldn't understand a damn word you were saying so how the hell do i know what you were talking about" & low and behold the olde racist card was produced. I asked for the manager and in my most pleasant tone explained how rude it is for staff to be conversing with each other whilst serving customers, i the told him its even worst when the chat is not in English, and that i found that exceptionally rude.; The staff hate me in there, but it really fcuks me off.

Did I fail to sniff love in the air?

CarmenCurlers to Bren (across the fence, one presumes)

Morning Bren,

Spirit of co-operation and all that....

Good call last night - better to have 'em pissing out of the tent than in - well done!

Not altogether surprised, little birdie tells me that SteveO is acting odd, he put up, and therefore controls, Tony Bennett's site, and apparently Bennett hasn't been able to get any communication out of him for over three weeks now, although SteveO has been posting on 3A's so is around; therefore can't update web site, other than posts. He was greatly in communication with 'doris', Tony's side kick, who believed he was arriving in Europe and she was going off into the Portuguese sunset with him, Gone with the Wind stuff, etc., etc., but he never arrived, and now won't answer e-mails from her or Tony.......

These are mysterious waters, and a little girl lies forgotten by many eh?

S

"What is going on with Laffin?"

Potsy to Bren:

Dear Bren,

I love 3As. I think it is important that we discuss the case and other appropriate topics.

What is going on with Laffin? I think it is so distracting. I think people have been banned for less nastiness.

Is he having a meltdown? Why are their posts that make no sense to the thread?

Please, please, is there anyway we can calm it down.

Got enough nasty pros to deal with...and the depression over this stupid Oprah show...

Ugh..

Wishing you the best.

Thanks for listening..

xxxooo Dorothy

"I do have one talent" -- wrong, you have several you miserable old fattie

chimaera to bren:

You sound really upset, my darling. Try not to let the b*ggers gribd you down!

For me, this forum was the first I had ever joined (I totally discount the MF from which I was banned!), and I joined this for the same reasons you started it; to find the truth and get some form of justice for a delightful little girl who had the most despicable parents.

I have dipped my toe, so to speak, in other forums, but really did not like the raison d'etre - which seemed to be to slag off this forum! In the past, I had many PMs as well as emails inviting me to join this forum and that forum - so many that I have now closed the email account I used to register here (so no point emailing me!!) and I can no longer remember my password anyway!

I have contributed so little to this forum compared to others. I prefer to gather information, analyze it and ONLY when I am 100% certain of my facts - I will post - that's the scientist in me, I'm afraid. But I do have one talent and that is spotting people's writing styles. No matter how well they think they have hidden them, I can spot them.

Maybe I should not have "outed" sabot last night, but truth is that I recognised sabot's style as B******* J****** (wrong. Woof, beeotch! And I know one when I sniff one). fft is someone who was banned from here, but I cannot remember her name on here. She posted under several, one of which was Kay Scarpetta. (Wrong again!)

Anyway, if I spot any other distruptors, do you want me to wade in, or run it past you first? I really would hate adding to your worries.

I love this forum and - quite honestly - we are ALL your guests and it is about time people realized that and behaved as they would if they were a guest in another's home.

On a personal note; I am glad that bloody gran has gone - it put me off posting every time I came on and there were endless sodding messages at the top of the board. But then, maybe I am just a cantankerous, grumpy old woman! (DING! DING! DING!)

chimaera/*****

You have heaps of talent, old girl. You're treacherous. You're a suck up. You're a back stabber. You're a semi stalker. That is more than evident. And remember, dogs don't lie! Woof!

"they will implode and turn on each other"

Re: Who wrote this and WHY ? 01 May 2008 13:59:31 (merged)

Between you and I, I have rung a solicitor and he said even solicitors letters will be ignored and the problems you all have is that it crosses into Irish Law and Scottish Law.

To sue them for libel is very very expensive and these types of people will just ignore letters and have no money probably and you could end up with hell of a bill.

He gave me an action plan, told me to close the blog down and put up something that you are getting people to monitor these sites, they will be so busy trying to check ips and best thing he explained is to ignore and starve them to death. The problem we have Laffin they are doing it via USA blogs or sites, which often involves USA laws and they allow more freedom of speech than we do, and we have no control over these and also harassment is only really proven if they send emails etc and things direct to you in email communication or through normal mail. What they are doing is actually libel which he says costs one hell of a load of money to get to court if you can manage it.

So I have put that up, closed the blog so they start wondering if I am doing something. I know Bonnybraes1 all the time I was posting on that blog and you are posting about blondie, she is getting the reaction she wants, it might take some time Laffin but perhaps if we do ignore totally and they will implode and turn on each other. That I am sure of.

Best thing for you is to keep onto the police about the threats than Andy made to you and demand they deal with it. Go through the ranks until you reach the top if you have to and report all those that don't do anything. Because his threats were criminal and not civil.

"...to be quite frank, Bren lost it."

Sent: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:05 pm
by Stevo
Thanks Photon.

I've had many PMs since I wrote that OP this morning. I wasn't going to bother but another poster told me at the weekend to air those views because there were several people also annoyed at that long-winded "threat" thread where to be quite frank, Bren lost it.

I will continue to post - but will confine it to my own forum for the time being. The 7 pages of hostile reaction to my simply pointing out that in a Madeleine McCann forum (even the name is no longer applicable!), there were only 6% of posts discussing it. People seemed to go off on tangents and interpret this as me telling them what to discuss. I wasn't. I was stating a fact. Personally I'd rather be posting a forum where there is a good 80-100% of discussion about the case. I can do without 911 conspiracies, flying saucers and talk of banana trees.

There's a hardcore of serious posters and I'd like to think I've always been one. Unfortunately we've lost good ones like IRONSIDE. It goes without saying that the translators; Kazlux, Astro and Co. are fantastic but to me, all that good work is being overshadowed by this underbelly of disruptors - DCB, Cabo, diddy, Jed etc.

Without sounding pompous, I'm fed up of wading through threads that are so far off topic it's more of a time wasting exercise. I want the truth, the evidence, the debate etc. but without this garbage inbetween.

Anyway, I've had a good volume of support from you and others today so thanks for the encouragement!

Cheers,

Stevo

The Comb isn't the only one who thinks so...

Well to be honest mickey1, I am not ruling M**** out altogether now, after he was vilified by them and how is life was so destroyed, anybody would have spoken out before now and he has not and that worries me.

I think it is to do with drink/drugs with the McCanns and some of them, but I do have this fear that one does have a shady secret they do not want exposed. My money is on P**** being involved in this somewhere.

Bren
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One size never fit all...

Bren to greenhouse:

Hi greenhouse,

I really can't reveal peoples IP's to members or confirm if they post from a particular IP. Hope you understand and thanks for the info we will keep an eye on things.

Bren

Bren to Stevo

I have neotraced them and they come up with Birmingham.

We do not have her registered her but the email addy she used to contact me was mailto:***********@btinternet.com. The
(redacted email address) comes up with a ******* **** on facebook, no friends.

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"Please stop this outing of members on this forum"

Outing of Members

Sent: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:58 pm
From: Admin
To: Stevo
Stevo

Sorry but this has got to stop, last night you were insinuating at chinagirl, maybe she is a pro but she still has rights as a member. Please stop this outing of members on this forum. As for your PM to the Mods about ******, no he is not being protected and if you emailed him and spoke perhaps you might learn something to your advantage. But I guess because he holds the view of a fence sitter he is not worthy of being contacted, well Stevo sorry to say, sometimes things are not what they seem and people can jump to conclusions and get things so, so wrong and ruin a lot of good work that some people are trying to do.

It is not up to me to tell you as it involves ****. I know you do a lost of investigative work with this case but please your insistence of outing posters is making this forum come into disrepute and I will not have that. If you want to out members, please do not use this forum to do it.

Bren