Diseased Minds

In this study we will be researching the diseased and hate addled minds of the 3Arguidos.net website.
A website dedicated to trashing the parents of a missing child.
The mods and admin have promised their members privacy but readily give out information on anyone who is seen as a threat to the official line. And if that doesn't interest you, the backstabbing is excellent, bested only by some of the very interesting adventures enjoyed by various and sundry on other sites. How the worm turns!

anything we can do to help...

Subject: FAO BONNYBRAES RE SICKO OF THE DAY

quote=mbkt: yeah i might have been a bit near the bone bonny BUT get off your high horse eh
because i leave the title of sickos of 2 years gerry and kate mccann (redacted... so libelous, so stalkerish, so of interest to the right laywers)

and a title i believe that no normal human being will try to grasp from their greedy hands in my life time.

Hi Laurie

Ignore her - don't waste any energy on that piece of sh1te (excuse my language). You have far better things to do. And you are a far, far better human being than she could ever dream of being.

Take care, Big_L!

Val xx

Hi big_l

As always, it's my pleasure. Keep 'em coming - you're an essential, and formidable, part of the Team. I think some people had their sense of humour surgically removed at birth

Hope you and yours are as well as me and mine.

Take care!

Val xx (aka Photon)

Hey, Big_L

Of course, I read it - and it was of your usual high standard. I love them !

Keep 'em coming!!!

Best wishes

Val xx

Sentinel and Grimley Feendish:

Posters who would not trouble MENSA scorers.

quote=Grimly Feendish

Mumof5 (by different fathers)
CarlyMichelle
Turkishdelight
DelusionalDeVille
Big_l
blondie2


how many times have i stopped myself......

l****1@*o******.co.uk

Lose the plot much?

Ratonthebeam to some no hoper...

Hello Lizzy! Even before I opened this email, I thought, now THERE's a name from the past!!! Good to "see" you again.

Viv has always been very disparaging of TB from Day 1. She sees him as a self-promoting attention seeker and has concerns that any action he takes might muddy the waters, and give the Mcs the chance to squeal that they are not getting a fair trial.

I can see her point sometimes, but I think there's a "personal" element too. I have no idea why she seems to have changed opinion that Madeleine may not be dead. That one puzzles me, TBH, I am not sure why she takes TB to task so much for assuming that M is dead, asit's an assumption everybody else seems to be making!

I would like to BELIEVE that there is a parallel UK investigation going on, but sadly I don't think there is. Again, I don't know Viv's grounds for believing that, unless she has some inside info that we are not party to.

I myself have some reservations re Tony, but on the whole I am a supporter. Like him or loathe him, he has breathed new life into this Forum and investigation, and for that alone he is to be applauded. With the things going on right now in Portugal, I am actually feeling more hopeful than I have done in a very long time.

There are also a number of people on here dissing Duarte Levy, but my gut instinct is to trust him, I think he is being done a terrible disservice here.

PM me anytime Lizzy, and mazel tov for your new home!

Chrissie xx

Ah, the vital New Zealand side of the investigation...

Hi Pakeha2007,

Please forgive this unsolicited pm.

I am trying to recruit yourself and Brit Abroad who lives in Dunedin I think to see if we can help the NZ side of the investigation.

Its not much but between us we should be able to discover SOMETHING.

I have found a Doctor (GP) in Invercargill, aged 38, Glasgow trained. I am off for an appointment with him on Friday pm (with the flu), and to hopefully impress him with my (rather less broad now) Glaswegian accent. Please wish me luck.

Do you live anywhere near Napier / or even Wellington?

Love to you and isn't this a great place.

Marianx

if it was a combination stalking/fool's errand at least the good doctor didn't have to do her PAP. Talk about the Seventh Circle of Hell.

Questions, questions... even then....

Is the new forum the last step in a plot or just the knock of opportunity?

Stevo & Analogy

Subject: Private meesage to me at 3As posted by nbrado on spoof site

quote=analogy Why did stevo set up that site? and why were we all then sent an email directing us to it?

Who was the original admin that sat and watched as nbrado merrily posted all this private info? stevo??

Who has now taken over as admin?"

Care to explain?

Bugalugs... thug and the Legend of PoppyFlowers

Hi Shiv,

Yes AMiller and co are the mainstay of that blog. I just cannot be doing with*****, ******, **** (zzzz) and ***** (******??)

Baronstu launched into a full on threat to me and two others last week because we didn't agree his thread was appropriate. He originally called it 'OLD MA HEALEY-AGAIN' and it was about her comment in the Liverpool Echo about how the forums are full of cretins. Basically he called her and her elderly sick husband for everything, really sick vile comments - the type Bernice used to accuse me off, and I couldn't see the point in attacking two old people who can't help being the parents of Kate McCann. The mods renamed the thread to something like Healeys/Echo comment. Baronstu was furious and threatened to 'find' us and 'get' us. Pathetic, I know, but a bit scary at the time. The thread is still there somewhere. After that his mate Bugalugs1970 started to PM me to abuse me further and I just couldn't take it anymore.

I know there are always going to be extremes on both sides, but at a time where we all know that Clarence is having the forums monitored, why give him what he wants? Why make it easy for him? As it happens, I think Mrs Healey was proven right on the day; the forums ARE full of cretins, Baronstu being one of them.

I honestly believe there are plants on here just to rabble rouse and generate hatred. The McCanns can then call us what they like and then endeavour to have the forum shut down.

The worst bit was when I put it into words on a thread of my own - basically warning everyone what will happen if we allow bullying and threatening behaviour to continue. I got over 40 replies in less than 20 minutes -all saying the same thing that Baronstu should have been banned. Next thing he appears again and launches another attack and more threats on other people! then out of nowhere came Nbrado and banned him!

****** ** who posts as 'kissmyass' (very apt) made an appearance to gloat about me being bullied - which was nice.........

Then one of BJR's oppo's PM'd me to tell me the thread was being deleted as it was causing unrest and accused me of doing an 'announce & flounce'. I was furious, literally sick with anger.

You've seen my posts on here and on SKY - I am fairly measured in my approach and not prone to hissy fits.

It was all very horrible and so I have decided to lay low. There are a lot of people on here angry that Baronstu is still a member - which goes right against the rules of the forum

I'm only hanging around to pick up my pms' and read Coldwater.

TAke Care

****xx

The more things change...

quote=princess_leia I knew you were going to say that! Damn lol

Oh well, if you ever feel like spilling the beans, please let me be the first to know. Vivida and her friends on the pro boards caused me a major problem last year involving the police.

Thanks for the info anyway.

Thanks Princess_leia

It's not that I don't want to say for any other reason than I can't betray the person providing me with the info. If I did that it would just dry up completely if you know what I mean.

What was the pro board she was involved in?

I can't seem to see any other connections to Ms Vivida (McCann family/friends etc.) so all I can assume is she's there to disrupt. I asked if she's a journo but more than likely she just worked/works in one of the newspapers. Her location is showing up as **** St/********* so it's a good match given the other info. Most of the papers as you know are on Fleet Street or Farringdon Street.

Stevoget.

One size never fit all...

Bren to greenhouse:

Hi greenhouse,

I really can't reveal peoples IP's to members or confirm if they post from a particular IP. Hope you understand and thanks for the info we will keep an eye on things.

Bren

Bren to Stevo

I have neotraced them and they come up with Birmingham.

We do not have her registered her but the email addy she used to contact me was mailto:***********@btinternet.com. The
(redacted email address) comes up with a ******* **** on facebook, no friends.

Publisher's description

NeoTrace shows you how packets get from your computer to another computer on the Internet by displaying all nodes between your computer and the trace target.

Romeo and Juliet, Beauty (creative license) and the Beast, or Mr and Mrs Macbeth?

Fearing a banning, has Laffin laid plans to expose his beloved Photon?!?!

Laffin to CarlyMichelle:

I think I may get Banned before the night's out.

If I do, post this on the forum. But only if i get banned.


(start of formal approach)

Dear Laffin

I've been asked by Bren, and on behalf of all of the Mods, to apologize for not trusting you and providing appropriate support to a longstanding poster who has been victimized with unacceptable and aggressive posts. We are genuinely sorry for any distress this may have caused you. To the best of our ability, this will not occur again. We value your contribution to this site, as do very many posters, and we will try to provide a more secure posting environment in future.

Yours sincerely

Admin & Mod Team (end of formal approach)

Hope you think the letter writing course worked

Obviously, you will still be liable to moderation if your posts are inappropriately worded, in which case they will be edited or deleted as appropriate, but we will be on more of a look-out for longstanding and respected posters coming under attack.

Best wishes

Val xx

When I'm calling yooooooooo-ooooooo-ooooooooo.......

Subject: Pirate bay and nbrado !!

quote=Laffin Assasin Them Pirate bay guys got locked up didn't they, here's nbrado, handing the database out last year. !!"

Hi Laffin

Really, really sorry for all of the flak that you got because I posted on this thread - never dreamt! Christ, they really don't have anything else to do, do they? And that bl00dy ISAR with his supercilious comments - I'd love to throttle him. (you see, gentle reader, it's not just ice water and embalming fluid flows through those veins. Woof!)

And as for these two - visions of cackling witches:

blondie2 wrote:
Bonny wouldn't it be a scream if Laffin and Photon were unveiled as Team McCann!

You could add Bren into that mixture and they would do more damage than Tem McCann would do [if they existed]

bonnybraes wrote:

Honestly, blondie, I have often wondered that about Dr Photon, what with all the mind-juggling, being a Liverpool doctor and all. All the really nasty stuff seemed to start with the Photon takeover; either she is a seriously disturbed individual, or she is doing it all for a very good reason..."

There aren't enough numbers to count up to anymore !

Take care

Van xx

ETA #1 - deleted this from Resignation thread - advised to take to PM if he wishes to discuss (sorry):

quote=Laffin Assasin Circumstances unknown

that's a lie Nit's, unless some of tripz's aliens came and beamed her up, SOMEONE knows what happened. Laffin I blame you pal..your the one who caused this by bringing YOUR personal problems here..I hope you are fkn satisfied..job well done..hey !

Shove a cheek, Tony-Q... and don't mind she holds her nose...

Hi Dorothy

BNP is the British National Party, and yes it was on a thread but the thread go removed, once we checked the link.

If you speak to her again, I have had a look at Pat and Susans blog and I see Ismellarat is spreading rumours about me being part of BNP. That is totally false, I have nothing to do with the BNP, never have and never will.

Anyway thanks for letting me know.

Bren
xx

Dear Bren,

Thanks for letting me know...I thought BNP...was British National Petroleum!

(redacted, it gets even thicker.)

xxxooo D

Surely the lovebirds didn't deceive Bren?!?!

Hi Laffin

Thanks for that - it was the humane thing to do (even though not very exciting! She may well have on other forums. Wouldn't have said so on here - although her ISP is as good as a proxy - Bren is quite strict in not allowing mods to have 2nd accounts if they ask, admittedly(although, obviously, anything is possible .... ).

It's not a bad idea to use a proxy when you register with an "unknown site" - it will disguise you IP (you obviously didn't do this with findingthe truth?). Alternatively, use a gmail account - they anonymise your IP for you as part of their privacy policy.....

I know a few good proxies/anonymisers.....

Best wishes

Val xx

'investigations' can turn up 'stuff'

HiDeTo

Hi Bren

OK..Will do that but remember, if noone else around..buzz me...I may be available.

(redacted blather about having to do two jobs, ride public transit, hours of work, sleep habits, time zones... gee, nobody to talk to much?)

I've told you all this not so you know my life story ..lol..but so you understand when I can be available and when I'm 'around' but not able to commit to lengthy modding but can be there if needed.

You do such a great job...I am still in awe of your commitment...Thanks!

Re: IP's...

Much more than ISP addys can be gained from IP addresses...I just feel it could be of importance to 'know' if someone is 'infiltrating' 3A therefore I have been doing a little checking.

Unfortunately IP's are not as helpful as email addys but they can give info..

eg..honestbroker uses AOL..but posted once under another IP from (maybe)*******..'He' uses **********...When I saw the Nigel Nessling using ******** I checked...Dont think its anything but if it was...you dont need the likes of him in 3A PMing other members etc. (Just an example)

Tell me if you don't feel that stuff is important...Its one of those things that you don't really know what you will find till you find it..People have left traces of themselves on the net for years and those kind of 'investigations' can turn up 'stuff'

I'm working on the list in the Mods forum but if there are any others you would like me to pursue, let me know.

As I said...I'm out of the loop in who is who, not being in the same timezone for Mod msn..which is a major stumbling block for me...

Let me know Bren...I want to help as much as I can..

Thanks again for hanging in...Oh..and I should be able to meet up with (redacted)

Liz xx

Is collusion some kind of foreplay?

Laffin and Photon:

could have a chat with Bren and do a bit of editing myself in Mods and then move back to Lounge?

Yes please.

Hare was onto the Group 13 hint pretty quickly.

He really will do anybody

Laffin & viv

quote=viv OH PS Assasin

If you are looking for some 24 Horas articles you will find some really good examples of Clarence Mitchell spinning his hat off!"
___________

Bye the way, I'M not liking the attacks on Tony, but if you've got something on him, i'd like to know .

Girl fight! Laffin & The Academic... the PJ of stitch ups...

Subject: The fridge. No not that one, another one

(redacted ramblings about a fridge in Portugal) (Does that backwater even have electricity? Woof)

Have you been in touch with Elliot Morley yet ?

No I haven't

Did you not receive my lovingly penned PM over at the MF which detailed my reasons? Namely that you blew my cover by letting on that I was an "online contact" of yours and that whereas I could have given the impression that I am a regular member of the geeky public that occasionally reads hansard and wanted to applaud his question. I no longer in the circumstances felt I could.

I went on to suggest that as an unconnected member of the public I could have added weight to your persistent pestering by saying "yes, yes that strikes a chord with me too" However now he knows that we are connected, he will no doubt tar the both of us with the same loony brush.

Please check your PM's over in the other place, I am sure I said it far more eloquently when I wrote it originally.
_______________

Time has moved on, with Clarry back in the news now would be a perfect time for you to strike at Mr Morley

"how can we know, for a fact, what is fact ?"

Thanks blacksmith.
I am feeling very discouraged.

I received a horrible PM a few weeks ago, from someone i'd never had any previous interraction or trouble with (MoeSlysack (sp?)) , who told me that i am, quote 'a truly slimey human being' and 'with one brain cell'. I didn't report it or reply to it. I'm obviously not popular in the forum.

I don't really understand 'libel' and please don't try to explain it to me.

I sometimes feel i've become part of an insular world. None of the stickies about statements, dvd, etc. have any verifiable links to the outside world. I'm not suggesting anyone is untrustworthy here, but how can we know, for a fact, what is fact ?

No need to reply, It's a rhetorical question. I'm a naturally 'doubting thomas' !

"this place is dirty"

I have learnt some stuff over last few days about certain people attached to this forum, i cannot say too much via pm's as i am sure you know the reason why....i will send you and email when i have the full details of what the score is in this pit.

The stuff that i have learnt has made me ponder as to whether i want to continue posting or having an account with this place. TBH, i think i will be off in the near future....ihave some morality, a shame others here don't...

None of this is directed at you, i want to pm you to let you know that i may be leaving as i have much respect for you as "*****" the person you are. I will email you the full story soon once i have all the details, this place is dirty.

Nope I ...am not going off on a paranoid one, this is for real, and I have never been saner.

S******x

Hi Baronstu

I'll bear that in mind.

Just a tad concerned that it may be used by our opponents as evidence of Bren's socks!

Best wishes

Val xx

"I will let you know if I find anything of interest"

Not yet as I other things to do but if I do port scan the IP I will let you know if I find anything of interest.

DrachenSachen