Diseased Minds

In this study we will be researching the diseased and hate addled minds of the 3Arguidos.net website.
A website dedicated to trashing the parents of a missing child.
The mods and admin have promised their members privacy but readily give out information on anyone who is seen as a threat to the official line. And if that doesn't interest you, the backstabbing is excellent, bested only by some of the very interesting adventures enjoyed by various and sundry on other sites. How the worm turns!

How many respected members had respected mods asking if you were satisfied with their decisions?

The charm free Marian goes after the charmless Drachen Sachen... Roisin then makes sure that charmless Marian is acceptably pleased. Because all members are equal, just some are more equal than others.

Hi Marian,

I just logged into the 3A's and noticed that you had reported a post by DrachenSachen. Was his/her removal of the offensive picture (which I didn't see, sorry) a satisfactory resolution. I noticed that Drachen also apologized but am a bit at a loss to know how bad the image was as it is now *gone*. The report remains open - as a new mod I'm really not sure what I'm doing quite yet and am going to check with one of the others to know whether DS is now warned over the offensive post, or exactly how this is handled.

Mainly, I just want to know at the moment if you are OK with the way the thread stands until someone walks me through the steps to take care of your report.

All the oldtimers (mods) are sleeping apparently (how dare they??) but I'm West Coast USA so it is not QUITE bedtime here yet.

Anyway, back to the topic - are you satisfied with DS's response to your complaint about the offensive post?

Let me know, please,
Roisin

Special 200th Post: A summary of the story so far

For Beo, money determines priorities: "Don't expect me to do the same as I do for paying clients that have critical servers managed by me. I know also we should care for members security but its (sic) not a responsability (sic) we should take eavily (sic)." Beo
The Portuguese investigators cleared Robert Murat, but Bren and Bennett have expressed their doubts
If inside info was worth money, Photon’s made Laffin a millionaire.
Laffin can’t spell genious (sic)
Photon thinks the sexual abuse threads are ‘dangerous.’ But just to the site.
Laffin likes Tony Bennett, but would be happy to know whatever Viv had on him.
Laffin has made specific threats involving Molotov cocktails.
Laffin has made general threats including "I know where some of them live, they'll regret crossing me."
Bren thinks it’s all OK because, after all, people get upset when they’re unfairly accused of shagging goats. Apparently being unfairly accused of killing your child is something one just sucks up.
Bren’s opinion of Bennett, at some point, was ‘not very high’. Thankfully she is/was bound and determined the forum would not ‘be used as a platform for his campaign.’
Stevo, on an unrelated matter, thinks Bren ‘lost it’
Maybe she did. Bren won’t pass on admin info to just anybody, but she’s certainly passed it on to Stevo.
But sometimes she tells him to stop outing members.
Janz says Bren thinks some respected members are ‘mentally challenged.’ Luckily, Janz says Bren doesn’t think that’s a banning offense.
Miffed thinks Bren needs support "despite her clumsiness and sometimes hasty or stupid decisions."
Stevo told Humanist who told Kezwalk ‘Bren owns porn sites’
Bren says she’s never voting BNP. NEVER.
Scylla gave Bren advice on how to rule the forum with an iron hand. I’m glad I’m not her husband.
Bugalugs doesn’t multitask: "All i can say is one day....when my nippers are all grown up......i would do time with great pride for a shot at Kate McCann. You have yourself a merry Christmas too Big L."
Bugalugs, at some point, thought the 3As was "dirty". She'd know from dirty, yeah?
Bugalugs called a most respected member "little lafin arsin"
ShuBob thought the mods were "stifling" debate
Cushty thinks Amaral was ‘mad’ to associate with the 3Arguidos
Estelle cuts and pastes articles even if she "doesn’t believe them."
But she gets away with it, others say, because "she's chummy with some mods and bjr"
Beachy "no longer feel(s) the same way I used to feel about 3A." Ga, how long would she blather if she did?
Rival old bagpipe Chimaera bolted on the "embarrassingly unpopular" Oxford event. To be fair, one actually has to get up off one’s arse to attend before one could then bolt.
Chimaera did however get off her arse to do a ghoul run through Rothley. Probably it was on the way.
Doris gets pissed off when respected members are all talk and no action. But really, dear, there’s only so many sheets on a loo roll. Not everybody could have some stuck to their shoe even if they wanted to.
Doris’ pet name for Viv is Andrex.
Doris so hoped someone could add some threats in a bubble coming out of Gerry McCann’s mouth. Potty mouth.
Doris is no Scarlett O'Hara.
Builda will not cyberstalk any woman over 49.
Sez Bren: "Now if I was going to out someone, I would find all the info on the person who I thought they were linked to and go from there."
Also sez Bren: "What is discussed in Mod box about IP tracing etc should stay there."
Abuela gives info on people’s private lives to Tripz, as long as he won’t tell anybody
Stevo and princess_leia cyberinvestigated Vivida
DrachenSachen port scanned. Kinda sorta against the TOS of, oh, every internet service provider on the planet. Except in Russia. Possibly.
Snivelling Mole likes to cyber snoop on Facebook.
Arguida’s rule of thumb is "trust no one" on the site.
Anna Smith's view is "VITRIOLIC WEBSITE FORUM IS HOME FOR SPINELESS COWARDS." Now where did she get that idea?
At the worst of times, one respected member was "scared I might take someone's baby".
People like Tony_Q make Ferretmama ashamed to be British.
Tony_Q pms people things like: what the fuc.k are you going on about now shit.forbrains?? He also doesn’t like the ‘Jew press.’ He remains unbanned.
Even though Captain Moron doesn’t like him.
Captain Moron also doesn’t like to mod alone at night. She doesn’t "know what to do with the weirdos." Mind you, that's all she has left these days, so possibly she's revisited that position. Revisiting is like when someone resigns forever and returns within 48 hours.
On an unrelated matter, Roisin wonders "who the hell" Captain Moron thinks she is.
Mumof5 wonders what 3As members are like real life. Not in a good way.
Hardly anybody has anything good to say about Blossom.
Most days, most members seem to wonder who everybody else is. Thankfully, they all have an opinion:
Chimaera: SallyGardens is Kay Scarpetta
Chimaera: Granofeleven is Kay Scarpetta
Chimaera: fft is Kay Scarpetta
Blondie2: Earthspirit is Norah and Harmony and FFT and Kay Scarpetta
Logicman: FarFrom is Gerry McCann
Bren: FarFrom is ‘a close family relation from Gerrys (sic) side’
Potsy: Earthspirit is FFT
Blondie2: Earthspirit is a member of Team McCann
Earthspirit: "many of the vile people on this site are team mccann"
Blondie2: Tylersmum is a member of Team McCann
Blonide2: Tylersmum is a team of people
Chrissie: Sentinel is a member of Team McCann
Chrissie: Tripz is a member of Team McCann
Christie: Laffin is a member of Team McCann
Beachy: Gestalt is a member of Team McCann
Foxylady: Caralina, Stinky Sardine and Albym are Team McCann
JillyComeLately: Caralina is a member of Team McCann
LillyoftheValley: nicked is a member of Team McCann
JillyComeLately: nicked is a member of Team McCann
JillyComeLately: " Team McCann had, at the last count 135 chimps/astroturfers/sock puppets on their payroll"
Donna: Emma2 is a member of Team McCann
Sally66: DeBunker is a member of Team McCann
Beachy: DeBunker is justlurking and a member of Team McCann
Potsy: newbie is DeBunker
Coldwater: DeBunker is twiglet1963, RRR, and HarveyHumphries
K4REN171: DeBunker is BJR, Nbrado, Princess Sukita, MoeSzyslak, Nicholass, TIREDOFTHEBS, FarFromThe, Scylla, Justin, Elizabeth, Shoperoo, and Poppyflowers (who also uses the fourm to flood with posts from other sources Plath, Beach, Cookie, Betwise, Tiny, Mairyhinge, Muratslawyer, Muratsglasses, Lindz07, DRACHENSACHEN/Rhodes, and P20)
LaffinAssassin: DeBunker is SlyFox
Blackwater: DeBunker is Nbrado
ScotBot: Nbrado is DeBunker in disguise
Vexiana: Rhodes is DeBunker
ShuBob: "To be honest, I can't keep up with these debunker people"
jkh: "who is DeBunker?"
Wiseman: DominicanDave is sammysnake and AliceM
Marian: Tony_Q is Tony Bennett
Marian: Hippychick is CrystalTips and MazMod
Lizzy: ChinaGirl is Kate
Blacksmith: Gestalt is Mumbles
Miffed: Rumpleteaser is Verbatim
Miffed: Positron is Verbatim
Dinsdale Piranha: Verbatim is Wag
UncleMonty: Lovemedo is Verbatim
RRR: Verbatim is positron and snoop and rocket
Miffed: JREWING is Helmetheid
R_MuratsGlasses: Blondie is Nbrado
Blondie2: Nbrado is Grimly
Arguida: Nbrado is DixonCox
Arguida: Nbrado is "a bunch of other people"
RRR: Sir R is Prof Moriarty is SirR
Whatever: SallyGardens is Gardenia
Coldwater: Blossom is Terrybull
Hellothere is TheGoverner and maybe CheeseMaster
Vancouver1: Gestalt is Gerry or one of the T9
SnivellingMole: DairyMilk is Tyra
Rammy: JillyComeLately is Go Get ‘Em Goncalo
LilyoftheValley: Fox is one of the T7 (where’d the other two go? Woof)
Joline: Fox is Rosie
Oldcrone: Truth M’Lud is NurseProstlink
LaffinAssassin: Splodgeboy is Truth M’Lud
Blacksmith: Logicman is Coldwater
Blondie2: Sentinel says Coldwater is PsychicSarah
Rammy: Sentinel is Retribution
Chrissie: Sentinel is Gerry
Sentinel: "they are delusional fools, some of whom believe that i am gerry mccann or Clarence"
But what’s in a name? It’s the thought that counts. And because I’m a sniffer dog, not an air traffic controller, lets 100% let the respected members speak for themselves in the backstabbing department:
"beachy is another fantasist. probably worked in the police typing pool." Sentinel
"Beachy is shocking because she gives quite different life stories to you, which insidiously wrap around your own life. When she realised I was from Suffolk, she fabricated a story about her family home in Ipswich. When I asked her on the Mirror Forum (when I had a different name), she told me a different story, based around Brighton. I have pages of stuff from her, as do others, and they are totally irreconcilable. And her "cases" are complete fiction." JimH
"Beachy is a fraud and judging by the number of supportive pms I've received, I don't think I'm alone in this belief. I have most her pms saved and although it pains me to say it (I do honestly like a lot of her posts), she fabricates stuff in a pathological and disturbing fashion. Even Redsquare (who I think is pretty much impeachable in terms of integrity) thinks she is full of bullshit." Pogacsa
"Hi Laffin is a resident. As a rule of thumb, any name with 3 consonants, or even multple ie 6, will usually be a resident and pro Mccann and/or pro Murat." TTW4
"laffin is a disruptor...believe me..." Tripz
"I am not defending Laffin by any means but you must understand when things like you shag goats are printed on sites it is only natural to get very offended and go after these people." Admin
"you probably see my topic in repsonse to kezwalk whata bitch he/she is" carlymichelle
"Snivelling Mole gets right up my nose, as she just wants to gossip about them in a bitchy way." horsegirl
"Oh Lorriane WTF....Nasty what a bitch (Gran)..." Willow
"you've got to admit that carlymichelle's post are probably the most irritating on the forum... i know the poor lady is ill but...anything to deter her from posting is a good thing no?" astromum
"Bugalugs is a cheeky git - telling me to go and shut the door behind me. Who do these people think they are?" Poppyflowers
"Bugalugs was so rude without reason....didnt realise it was so bad with some people here to be honest..." pinkpixiexx
"He hasn't changed. He was an asshole then, and he's an asshole now. (Nbrado)" Beachy
"OMG have you just seen what he's (Tony_Q) said, although admin have deleted it l thought l'd send it to show you what an idiot we've conversed with tonight." Margaret
"the man's an idiot. you can drive a coach and horses through his arguments. good job he wasn't a barrister." Cushty
"What do you think Stevo's up to? Is he aligned with TB, just playing naive or is he really an idiot?" LittleGreyCell
"TRIPZ is a BULLY and you are no better for sticking up for him." Potatoe Head to jjp
"Sorry, had you (Qwerty) down for a moron for a while - obviously just a pious prick - Daddy." Markmirfin
"I have no time for the ignorant man (Stevo). I can't bear to enter his threads." xxdelly
"Very strange individual (Stevo), I know that some of us could be construed as being a bit obsessed in trying to work out what has happened to Madeleine but multiple websites are obsessive imo." xxdelly
"What a twat. (Stevo) " writer lynn

You have to wonder whether they actually hate the McCanns as much as they hate each other. But they won’t tell you that to your face.

PS: A copper’s advice to Bren: ‘switch off the PC.’

CarlyMichelle is still waiting for an answer on her offer to mod.

Laffin assures us he is of ‘previous good character.’

And I purposely left out the fact that jjp advertises for sex hook ups with couples and says he has an average sized dick. Which is scary because everybody adds at least three inches on the internet.

Really, what is it you awful people actually think you're accomplishing? Even if you were right with your wild, discredited theories, your character wouldn't survive the first paragraph in News of the World.

More to come. WOOF!

The Comb isn't the only one who thinks so...

Well to be honest mickey1, I am not ruling M**** out altogether now, after he was vilified by them and how is life was so destroyed, anybody would have spoken out before now and he has not and that worries me.

I think it is to do with drink/drugs with the McCanns and some of them, but I do have this fear that one does have a shady secret they do not want exposed. My money is on P**** being involved in this somewhere.

Bren
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"I guess this site is about trust no one."

Arguida to Blondie2

Thank you for replying. I think I am out of my league. I knew N***** must have been someone else because Senti said something about outing her. Never thought it was all the others. I don't know how people know these things.

I did think Nbrado was a bunch of other people. I thought he was also Dixon Cox because of the type of pictures he drew. Figured I was right when Dixon Cox disappeared same time he did. Several others too. But today they are all back. It is almost as if they played a backup tape. Whatever yesterday's fight was about seems reversed today and I am not sure that is a good thing. I was glad to see Nbrado go. Figured maybe I would stop getting trojans on my computer after visiting this site.

I guess this site is about trust no one.

Si, si, Senora, but does the quick pulse of love beat when you see my shiny blue roller disco jacket?

Justamumof3 writes, Chiquitita apparently ignores

Hi Beowolf,

You don't know me, so let me introduce myself. G******** ****, age 45, computer programmer by profession since the days of punched cards, now retired on ill health, too much time on my hands!

(redacted walk through the resume) ....and I am concerned about the backup information that has been stolen. There are only a limited number of ways that a password can be encrypted (there are a few industry standard ways of doing i!), and it is possible to unencrypt it. (redacted ancient history regarding computers in the olden days, opposable thumbs, Gutenberg, writing with feathers, hoopskirts... this one's the Beachy of technology) ...but I could write a program to do it in a couple of days, and that program may then need to run for a week, or three weeks, to try every encryption key possible, but it would get there. (In my day it would have needed a Kray supercomputer, now a pc will do it). I don't know how the password was compromised, and I don't know how good a programmer nbrado is, how much of the history of IT he knows, and whether he would know encryption techniques and realise he could easily unencrypt - I know, because I am old, and started in the days when we still encrypted our own passwords on the systems we wrote!

I therefore don't know whether it is worth telling everyone to change their password, or could you force it with some setting on the forum? Is there a "change password every week" setting you could invoke as a temporary measure? (Even by accident, when trying to improve security, no need to panic obviously, not done deliberately?)
I am afraid that a few more "impersonations" could ruin a forum I enjoy posting in, but I am also aware that telling people that their security has been compromised is also not good for the forum.

Anyway, over to you, I would not post this in the forum as I don't feel spreading panic is the way to go, your life is hard enough as it is - and you know nbrado and know whether he has the ability to unencrypt.

'investigations' can turn up 'stuff'

HiDeTo

Hi Bren

OK..Will do that but remember, if noone else around..buzz me...I may be available.

(redacted blather about having to do two jobs, ride public transit, hours of work, sleep habits, time zones... gee, nobody to talk to much?)

I've told you all this not so you know my life story ..lol..but so you understand when I can be available and when I'm 'around' but not able to commit to lengthy modding but can be there if needed.

You do such a great job...I am still in awe of your commitment...Thanks!

Re: IP's...

Much more than ISP addys can be gained from IP addresses...I just feel it could be of importance to 'know' if someone is 'infiltrating' 3A therefore I have been doing a little checking.

Unfortunately IP's are not as helpful as email addys but they can give info..

eg..honestbroker uses AOL..but posted once under another IP from (maybe)*******..'He' uses **********...When I saw the Nigel Nessling using ******** I checked...Dont think its anything but if it was...you dont need the likes of him in 3A PMing other members etc. (Just an example)

Tell me if you don't feel that stuff is important...Its one of those things that you don't really know what you will find till you find it..People have left traces of themselves on the net for years and those kind of 'investigations' can turn up 'stuff'

I'm working on the list in the Mods forum but if there are any others you would like me to pursue, let me know.

As I said...I'm out of the loop in who is who, not being in the same timezone for Mod msn..which is a major stumbling block for me...

Let me know Bren...I want to help as much as I can..

Thanks again for hanging in...Oh..and I should be able to meet up with (redacted)

Liz xx

This one was a real tailwagger... less goer again!

A cry for help!

Dear ***,

I am the only one here now. I want to go to bed. I don't know what to do with all the wierdos by myself. I love all of ya'll. Goodnight.

Love

A*****
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Great forum... if you don't mind insanity

Thanks for the PM anti-PhiloPastry,

I honestly can't make up my mind whether there are slightly insane people who want to believe in a grand conspiracy theory, or whether it's a deliberate ploy to distract.

I do think some of the posters on the thread are playing games just for the sport of it, and I'm going to drop off it soon as IMHO it's a waste of time / effort.

Rufus.

A cry for help!

Dear ***,

I am the only one here now. I want to go to bed. I don't know what to do with all the wierdos by myself. I love all of ya'll. Goodnight.

Love

A*****
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"I am now a target!"

quote=Laffin Assasin: I don't use MSN or Skype.

I know I'm aggressive at times, I get so angry about the injustice of this whole charade. /

I have had two posts deleted tonight! I know that my posts are not aggressive - I spend too much time checking out how they can be interpreted. But I resigned from Mod Mansion - I am now a target!

Grrrrrr............ will they ever focus on Madeleine again?


******

that is the email she used

Bren to Stevo

Re. the Whoosh-clunked Secret Sex Diary/Castle Craig

Yes banned from here, substitute ** for an * and that is the email she used.

"I simply cut and paste articles and posts on my thread even if I do not believe them"

quote=Estelle Hi waterfall

I have been sent pms from other posters who feel the same way as you do in the past. I read her posts and do note that she seems to advise "Leave it to the police." Perhaps that is the best thing to do really, who knows?

I note lately that anyone saying anything different than charge them with neglect is treated as if they are going to be charged with libel with the McCanns. Few people seem to be willing to say more than "accident" by herself (as if she could kill herself) and they came back and found her dead.

I am always being told that it will be simple....but I think it is complex...many layers....and a lot of planning...perhaps the faked abduction was not very planned as they could not rely on others to lie for them....except J*** ****** and the doctors pretending they checked.

Distraction and confusion is what ***** says works best so police time is lost.

Beachy is a lady who wants to have followers and treats others as more lowly than herself. She writes well so I simply cut and paste articles and posts on my thread even if I do not believe them so I can go back and read them one day.

Thanks for your email...beachy does not have a suspicious mind..so would not have made a good detective....but also does not want to say things that most people do not want to know about yet.

Cheers

Estelle

Special 100th Post

In Bjrs words....well, a certain minority of our members appear to be 'mentally' challenged, but I'm afraid we cant just ban them for that!

we are doing our best to keep *********** under control, by merging her threads, but unfortunately there isn't actually any way of stopping her from posting...

best to ignore her....and please stay!

J***

"I don't want to offend the other Portuguese posters"

Blacksmith to Widowan (a very chatty pair):

Hi. I'm replying by PM about A***** because I've suddenly decided not to be rude about him as I might need to go and get an interview with him! Let's hope I haven't been too caustic already.

Yes, you're quite right -- there is an unnerving passivity about him. I noticed it regard to the supposed betrayal by the UK police in not sending replies and similar matters. You know I don't want to offend the other Portuguese posters either but it looks like the investigation really was much, much, worse than I expected. I've been involved in quite a number of police investigations in the UK and I've seen awful blunders at first hand but this was a bit of a f***-up.

Regards

B

"...admin and some with different privaledges are able to read PM's..."

******* writes:

Hello *****,

Yes, I completely understand why you are reluctant to give your email address out after the problems that have been happening on the 3A's.

I also run a *** forum and am aware how admin and some with different privaledges are able to read PM's and and I am very reluctant to put my confidential details in a PM for this reason.

(balance redacted)

I won't revel my source

jjp to quark1

My position about this fellow appears to be exactly the same as yours.

I have also looked at the CV which I think came originally from his own blog and found nothing to corroborate it at all.

I am very suspicious of him, of his M**** Government links and his lack of traceable jounalistic history.

I may be wholly wrong about him but am unwilling to blindly trust him in exactly the same I never placed any faith in CW.

He is clearly linked to L*** and I have heard (nothing confirmed) that L*** is friendly with Clarence Mitchell. I see R*** was pro McCann in his early days.

Something seems wrong and I, like you will keep digging.

Jjp

Keep your pecker up indeed

Re: keep your pecker up bren a message of support from big_l

Thanks big_l, normally I ignore them but I thought this time bugger it, show them up for what they all are, a bunch of lowlifes, that don't give a damn about poor Maddie only protecting those scumbag parents.

Oh this is nice I am say what I like about those parents by PM!

The most dangerous theory so far

Photon to Bren

I just want to draw your attention to this, because although there are lots of wild theories out there, this one could cause a lot of trouble.

It really is too much that half the T**** are implied to be "in on" sexually abusing M*****. I feel there are questions to be answered but regardless of that I feel this is an attack too far on individuals who have been charged with nothing.

Just wanted to say that for the record rather kick off on a forum. By far the most "dangerous" theory so far.

And the truth shall out...

To Sentinel:

I agree, none of us should be here for ourselves and glory. We're here to help Madeleine. The objective gets lost to often. Honestly, the way we behave on here sometimes, we should be ashamed of ourselves. I'm talking the collective we here. I'm not saying you!

Anyway, I really do hope you'll accept my apology.

Andrea
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