Diseased Minds

In this study we will be researching the diseased and hate addled minds of the 3Arguidos.net website.
A website dedicated to trashing the parents of a missing child.
The mods and admin have promised their members privacy but readily give out information on anyone who is seen as a threat to the official line. And if that doesn't interest you, the backstabbing is excellent, bested only by some of the very interesting adventures enjoyed by various and sundry on other sites. How the worm turns!

Ah, the vital New Zealand side of the investigation...

Hi Pakeha2007,

Please forgive this unsolicited pm.

I am trying to recruit yourself and Brit Abroad who lives in Dunedin I think to see if we can help the NZ side of the investigation.

Its not much but between us we should be able to discover SOMETHING.

I have found a Doctor (GP) in Invercargill, aged 38, Glasgow trained. I am off for an appointment with him on Friday pm (with the flu), and to hopefully impress him with my (rather less broad now) Glaswegian accent. Please wish me luck.

Do you live anywhere near Napier / or even Wellington?

Love to you and isn't this a great place.

Marianx

if it was a combination stalking/fool's errand at least the good doctor didn't have to do her PAP. Talk about the Seventh Circle of Hell.

(old) Birds of a feather

Count me in dear marian!

I'll go and have a look at the cabo thread, I haven't seen it.

Warmest regards, Jilly

Like two corpses, snuggling. ALERT!

Special 200th Post: A summary of the story so far

For Beo, money determines priorities: "Don't expect me to do the same as I do for paying clients that have critical servers managed by me. I know also we should care for members security but its (sic) not a responsability (sic) we should take eavily (sic)." Beo
The Portuguese investigators cleared Robert Murat, but Bren and Bennett have expressed their doubts
If inside info was worth money, Photon’s made Laffin a millionaire.
Laffin can’t spell genious (sic)
Photon thinks the sexual abuse threads are ‘dangerous.’ But just to the site.
Laffin likes Tony Bennett, but would be happy to know whatever Viv had on him.
Laffin has made specific threats involving Molotov cocktails.
Laffin has made general threats including "I know where some of them live, they'll regret crossing me."
Bren thinks it’s all OK because, after all, people get upset when they’re unfairly accused of shagging goats. Apparently being unfairly accused of killing your child is something one just sucks up.
Bren’s opinion of Bennett, at some point, was ‘not very high’. Thankfully she is/was bound and determined the forum would not ‘be used as a platform for his campaign.’
Stevo, on an unrelated matter, thinks Bren ‘lost it’
Maybe she did. Bren won’t pass on admin info to just anybody, but she’s certainly passed it on to Stevo.
But sometimes she tells him to stop outing members.
Janz says Bren thinks some respected members are ‘mentally challenged.’ Luckily, Janz says Bren doesn’t think that’s a banning offense.
Miffed thinks Bren needs support "despite her clumsiness and sometimes hasty or stupid decisions."
Stevo told Humanist who told Kezwalk ‘Bren owns porn sites’
Bren says she’s never voting BNP. NEVER.
Scylla gave Bren advice on how to rule the forum with an iron hand. I’m glad I’m not her husband.
Bugalugs doesn’t multitask: "All i can say is one day....when my nippers are all grown up......i would do time with great pride for a shot at Kate McCann. You have yourself a merry Christmas too Big L."
Bugalugs, at some point, thought the 3As was "dirty". She'd know from dirty, yeah?
Bugalugs called a most respected member "little lafin arsin"
ShuBob thought the mods were "stifling" debate
Cushty thinks Amaral was ‘mad’ to associate with the 3Arguidos
Estelle cuts and pastes articles even if she "doesn’t believe them."
But she gets away with it, others say, because "she's chummy with some mods and bjr"
Beachy "no longer feel(s) the same way I used to feel about 3A." Ga, how long would she blather if she did?
Rival old bagpipe Chimaera bolted on the "embarrassingly unpopular" Oxford event. To be fair, one actually has to get up off one’s arse to attend before one could then bolt.
Chimaera did however get off her arse to do a ghoul run through Rothley. Probably it was on the way.
Doris gets pissed off when respected members are all talk and no action. But really, dear, there’s only so many sheets on a loo roll. Not everybody could have some stuck to their shoe even if they wanted to.
Doris’ pet name for Viv is Andrex.
Doris so hoped someone could add some threats in a bubble coming out of Gerry McCann’s mouth. Potty mouth.
Doris is no Scarlett O'Hara.
Builda will not cyberstalk any woman over 49.
Sez Bren: "Now if I was going to out someone, I would find all the info on the person who I thought they were linked to and go from there."
Also sez Bren: "What is discussed in Mod box about IP tracing etc should stay there."
Abuela gives info on people’s private lives to Tripz, as long as he won’t tell anybody
Stevo and princess_leia cyberinvestigated Vivida
DrachenSachen port scanned. Kinda sorta against the TOS of, oh, every internet service provider on the planet. Except in Russia. Possibly.
Snivelling Mole likes to cyber snoop on Facebook.
Arguida’s rule of thumb is "trust no one" on the site.
Anna Smith's view is "VITRIOLIC WEBSITE FORUM IS HOME FOR SPINELESS COWARDS." Now where did she get that idea?
At the worst of times, one respected member was "scared I might take someone's baby".
People like Tony_Q make Ferretmama ashamed to be British.
Tony_Q pms people things like: what the fuc.k are you going on about now shit.forbrains?? He also doesn’t like the ‘Jew press.’ He remains unbanned.
Even though Captain Moron doesn’t like him.
Captain Moron also doesn’t like to mod alone at night. She doesn’t "know what to do with the weirdos." Mind you, that's all she has left these days, so possibly she's revisited that position. Revisiting is like when someone resigns forever and returns within 48 hours.
On an unrelated matter, Roisin wonders "who the hell" Captain Moron thinks she is.
Mumof5 wonders what 3As members are like real life. Not in a good way.
Hardly anybody has anything good to say about Blossom.
Most days, most members seem to wonder who everybody else is. Thankfully, they all have an opinion:
Chimaera: SallyGardens is Kay Scarpetta
Chimaera: Granofeleven is Kay Scarpetta
Chimaera: fft is Kay Scarpetta
Blondie2: Earthspirit is Norah and Harmony and FFT and Kay Scarpetta
Logicman: FarFrom is Gerry McCann
Bren: FarFrom is ‘a close family relation from Gerrys (sic) side’
Potsy: Earthspirit is FFT
Blondie2: Earthspirit is a member of Team McCann
Earthspirit: "many of the vile people on this site are team mccann"
Blondie2: Tylersmum is a member of Team McCann
Blonide2: Tylersmum is a team of people
Chrissie: Sentinel is a member of Team McCann
Chrissie: Tripz is a member of Team McCann
Christie: Laffin is a member of Team McCann
Beachy: Gestalt is a member of Team McCann
Foxylady: Caralina, Stinky Sardine and Albym are Team McCann
JillyComeLately: Caralina is a member of Team McCann
LillyoftheValley: nicked is a member of Team McCann
JillyComeLately: nicked is a member of Team McCann
JillyComeLately: " Team McCann had, at the last count 135 chimps/astroturfers/sock puppets on their payroll"
Donna: Emma2 is a member of Team McCann
Sally66: DeBunker is a member of Team McCann
Beachy: DeBunker is justlurking and a member of Team McCann
Potsy: newbie is DeBunker
Coldwater: DeBunker is twiglet1963, RRR, and HarveyHumphries
K4REN171: DeBunker is BJR, Nbrado, Princess Sukita, MoeSzyslak, Nicholass, TIREDOFTHEBS, FarFromThe, Scylla, Justin, Elizabeth, Shoperoo, and Poppyflowers (who also uses the fourm to flood with posts from other sources Plath, Beach, Cookie, Betwise, Tiny, Mairyhinge, Muratslawyer, Muratsglasses, Lindz07, DRACHENSACHEN/Rhodes, and P20)
LaffinAssassin: DeBunker is SlyFox
Blackwater: DeBunker is Nbrado
ScotBot: Nbrado is DeBunker in disguise
Vexiana: Rhodes is DeBunker
ShuBob: "To be honest, I can't keep up with these debunker people"
jkh: "who is DeBunker?"
Wiseman: DominicanDave is sammysnake and AliceM
Marian: Tony_Q is Tony Bennett
Marian: Hippychick is CrystalTips and MazMod
Lizzy: ChinaGirl is Kate
Blacksmith: Gestalt is Mumbles
Miffed: Rumpleteaser is Verbatim
Miffed: Positron is Verbatim
Dinsdale Piranha: Verbatim is Wag
UncleMonty: Lovemedo is Verbatim
RRR: Verbatim is positron and snoop and rocket
Miffed: JREWING is Helmetheid
R_MuratsGlasses: Blondie is Nbrado
Blondie2: Nbrado is Grimly
Arguida: Nbrado is DixonCox
Arguida: Nbrado is "a bunch of other people"
RRR: Sir R is Prof Moriarty is SirR
Whatever: SallyGardens is Gardenia
Coldwater: Blossom is Terrybull
Hellothere is TheGoverner and maybe CheeseMaster
Vancouver1: Gestalt is Gerry or one of the T9
SnivellingMole: DairyMilk is Tyra
Rammy: JillyComeLately is Go Get ‘Em Goncalo
LilyoftheValley: Fox is one of the T7 (where’d the other two go? Woof)
Joline: Fox is Rosie
Oldcrone: Truth M’Lud is NurseProstlink
LaffinAssassin: Splodgeboy is Truth M’Lud
Blacksmith: Logicman is Coldwater
Blondie2: Sentinel says Coldwater is PsychicSarah
Rammy: Sentinel is Retribution
Chrissie: Sentinel is Gerry
Sentinel: "they are delusional fools, some of whom believe that i am gerry mccann or Clarence"
But what’s in a name? It’s the thought that counts. And because I’m a sniffer dog, not an air traffic controller, lets 100% let the respected members speak for themselves in the backstabbing department:
"beachy is another fantasist. probably worked in the police typing pool." Sentinel
"Beachy is shocking because she gives quite different life stories to you, which insidiously wrap around your own life. When she realised I was from Suffolk, she fabricated a story about her family home in Ipswich. When I asked her on the Mirror Forum (when I had a different name), she told me a different story, based around Brighton. I have pages of stuff from her, as do others, and they are totally irreconcilable. And her "cases" are complete fiction." JimH
"Beachy is a fraud and judging by the number of supportive pms I've received, I don't think I'm alone in this belief. I have most her pms saved and although it pains me to say it (I do honestly like a lot of her posts), she fabricates stuff in a pathological and disturbing fashion. Even Redsquare (who I think is pretty much impeachable in terms of integrity) thinks she is full of bullshit." Pogacsa
"Hi Laffin is a resident. As a rule of thumb, any name with 3 consonants, or even multple ie 6, will usually be a resident and pro Mccann and/or pro Murat." TTW4
"laffin is a disruptor...believe me..." Tripz
"I am not defending Laffin by any means but you must understand when things like you shag goats are printed on sites it is only natural to get very offended and go after these people." Admin
"you probably see my topic in repsonse to kezwalk whata bitch he/she is" carlymichelle
"Snivelling Mole gets right up my nose, as she just wants to gossip about them in a bitchy way." horsegirl
"Oh Lorriane WTF....Nasty what a bitch (Gran)..." Willow
"you've got to admit that carlymichelle's post are probably the most irritating on the forum... i know the poor lady is ill but...anything to deter her from posting is a good thing no?" astromum
"Bugalugs is a cheeky git - telling me to go and shut the door behind me. Who do these people think they are?" Poppyflowers
"Bugalugs was so rude without reason....didnt realise it was so bad with some people here to be honest..." pinkpixiexx
"He hasn't changed. He was an asshole then, and he's an asshole now. (Nbrado)" Beachy
"OMG have you just seen what he's (Tony_Q) said, although admin have deleted it l thought l'd send it to show you what an idiot we've conversed with tonight." Margaret
"the man's an idiot. you can drive a coach and horses through his arguments. good job he wasn't a barrister." Cushty
"What do you think Stevo's up to? Is he aligned with TB, just playing naive or is he really an idiot?" LittleGreyCell
"TRIPZ is a BULLY and you are no better for sticking up for him." Potatoe Head to jjp
"Sorry, had you (Qwerty) down for a moron for a while - obviously just a pious prick - Daddy." Markmirfin
"I have no time for the ignorant man (Stevo). I can't bear to enter his threads." xxdelly
"Very strange individual (Stevo), I know that some of us could be construed as being a bit obsessed in trying to work out what has happened to Madeleine but multiple websites are obsessive imo." xxdelly
"What a twat. (Stevo) " writer lynn

You have to wonder whether they actually hate the McCanns as much as they hate each other. But they won’t tell you that to your face.

PS: A copper’s advice to Bren: ‘switch off the PC.’

CarlyMichelle is still waiting for an answer on her offer to mod.

Laffin assures us he is of ‘previous good character.’

And I purposely left out the fact that jjp advertises for sex hook ups with couples and says he has an average sized dick. Which is scary because everybody adds at least three inches on the internet.

Really, what is it you awful people actually think you're accomplishing? Even if you were right with your wild, discredited theories, your character wouldn't survive the first paragraph in News of the World.

More to come. WOOF!

Creepy Abuela Part II

Name, address, spouse, spouse's maiden name, spouse's business interests, spouse's birthday, father, father's profession, father's location, mother, parents' marital status, father's second wife's name, date of father's second marriage, creepy. Creepy, wrong, invasive, bizarre, WOOF!

Does anyone know if M*** W******* T***** of ***** **** Surrey the "freelance journalist" arrested here is any relation to M*** ************* crime expert and friend of the ******** who runs ***************************[quote]"

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One and the same Tylermum. Only one **** ***************** on the birth index (middle name ****). Address is ******* ****** ** ***** *****, *********, ********, ****** (on the *****/****** *******) Wife is ***** nee *****, who is director of six companies. Can only find two, ** ********* and ** ***********, which deals in ******* and ************ ***********, ***** ************ and **. The company was set up on ** **** 200*, just a month after Madeleine went missing. By strange coincidence, his wife, *****'s birthday is *** ****!!

*********** father is ** ****** *** ***************** who is a doctor in ******, *********. His mother is **** nee *********** but they are divorced and he married a ***** * ********* in ************ in August 2000.

Just in case you are wondering, I am a genealogist and have access to the records.

Something I just can't put my finger on about this lot...but I'll keep searching!

Regards,

Search away - perhaps you'll find something to report you wouldn't mind admitting to. Or maybe you'll find a life. WOOF!

Respected Members, technically; Respectable members, not so much. If you're normal.

(to and from redacted because it's the thought that counts)

really there's nothing there I could get offended at, you come across fine. I've 'put my foot in it' a lot, even though I think I'm sensitive I have come out with dreadful things that have reduced friends to tears...

My previous marriage failed, with my ex-husband saying he couldn't stand my not having friends; it wasn't 'normal'. I did have some - well, a few - friends when we met but he made it clear he didn't like them. One of the things that caused us to split up was his refusal to have children... he said I couldn't even look after myself properly. I was literally desparate to have children; scared I might take someone's baby at my worst times. Luckily I met another man who, like me, finds making and keeping friends difficult so that in itself is a kind of kinship plus we're similar on other levels, both artistic, not too confident. His mother gave him up for adoption when he was a baby. I find I usually bond more with people who've had difficulties in life. He is a fantastic Dad, particularly given his hard start in life and he is tireless doing stuff with our kids and definitely still a child at heart. I will try and get my hubby to read your post (he dislikes reading) as I can never explain things clearly to him in a way he responds to as far as AS is concerned. He says everyone has something 'wrong with' them and to just get on with it. I will have to keep introducing little relevant snippets I find out in the hope I can chip away at him. I will order the book you recommend about bullying. (Redacted. After the previous, you don't want to know.) Sorry to ramble on so. I had loads of spam pms today so was really pleased to get yours with all the sound advice.

(People like this are among those presuming to judge others as part of the 3Arguidos pursuit of "justice". Based on what? Their own personal superiority and the frenzied, disproven, discredited ramblings on a hate site?)

"I am not comfortable with putting living people's details on a forum, but am quite happy for you to do so."

Tripz, if you want to progress this thread...the info is a public record and is available (with a subscription) on Ancestry.com, so it's not giving away any secrets! I would prefer not to be named as the source as I am helping some other people on the site with their genealogies and I wouldn't like them to think they couldn't trust me...however, quite happy for you to quote the details as they ARE public records, but many people wouldn't know where to find them.

Ancestry.com.

R****** ******* **********. Born quarter ********* 19** in Wirral. Mother's maiden name ****.

Regards,

J*****


Hi lynne, yes, back to balmy *********** on 24th for a week, can't wait to see ****** and ******. I see them on the webcam, although ***** usually just says "hiya nana, where's me grandad" Be good to give them both a hug.

Had the estate agent round this week so my apartment is really clean and tidy for a change! If we don't sell it by the end of summer, we will think of renting it out long term and renting in England. We are looking at *********** because we know it well and Mum lives there. To be honest, don't really know much about the *********** suburbs, so if you could suggest anywhere nice or areas to avoid, that would be good. Luckily we were able to pay off the mortgage when we sold the house in ******* so paid outright for this place. We will lose a bit, but with the euro against the pound, shouldn't be too bad. Fingers crossed!!

Difficult to find out much about Payne. I found his sister ******* who was born Leicester 19**. She married ****** * ***** in R******** 19**. She is (redacted) and mother's maiden name is *********. I did find the parents marriage too, but I've tidied up so well, I can't find it. I remember they were married in Leicester though.

Well, off to bed now, I've had a long tiring day doing absolutely nothing but sitting in the sun, soaking up some sunshine vitamins!

Take care and talk to you soon.

J*****

A D***** connection!
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Hi polandguy. You may be interested in another D***** connection. As a genealogist, I am not comfortable with putting living people's details on a forum, but am quite happy for you to do so.

Just checked out ******* on Friends Reunited. She is listed under ****** ********** (which was her maiden name). On it she states that in 19** she left the UK for ******** with an NGO (I've NO idea what that means!), followed by eight and a half years at the ****** ********. Now working in a ******** *******.

This may, or may not, be of any importance, but just thought I would let you know.

Regards,

Abuela (J******)

(How the hell does this topic get raised over fry up? Woof!)

Hello and thanks for an interesting read. I completely agree with you when you say that everything has a meaning if only we stop and look. The dream that my daughter and I had on the same night, was that we had sex with a not very sexy or fanciable actor, LOL! He wasn't someone in the headlines, we hadn't seen him on TV recently or even someone that we had discussed together previously. All very bizarre!

((redacted boring even for somebody who talks with relations about sex dreams.))

Regards,

Abuela (J*****) x

Tripz, this is probably just purely coincidental, but O'Brien's mother's maiden name is ***** - the same as the guy at the *** that did the negative report.

And *******'s mother's maiden name is ******** - same as a certain politician, redacted

As I said, probably completely coincidental, but might be something you want to put in your notes.

J*****

Great forum... if you don't mind insanity

Thanks for the PM anti-PhiloPastry,

I honestly can't make up my mind whether there are slightly insane people who want to believe in a grand conspiracy theory, or whether it's a deliberate ploy to distract.

I do think some of the posters on the thread are playing games just for the sport of it, and I'm going to drop off it soon as IMHO it's a waste of time / effort.

Rufus.

Laffin gives details.....

Mitchells mobile number was 0*********

His Address is 34 ******** H******, L******, B******, B** ***.

Have fun



They are getting BLOOD MONEY!!! Simple!! who has there contact details so I can send them a letter explaining that the money is stained with the blood of 3 yr old girl!! as if they dont know already!!!

David and Fiona Payne
(Address Redacted)

mobile numbers 0******* david
0********* Fiona

Pass them on


Pass them on to whom?

For what purpose?

Is there a PCC code for cyber stalking?

Snivelling Mole writes:

bum. just had a look myself and they all have private pages. i hate it when people have private pages lol.

and if thats the ch*** ****** i think it is then my god dont she look like her dad!!

whats needed is someone to request one of them as a friend. maybe under a new identity on facebook. or on an id that contains no groups about the mccanns. if its a long standing member with no mccann groups then you can use the old 'facebook said i probably knew you' chestnut.

im a bit scared to put this on the forum now. any way we can this message around?

sm
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if i get a chance tomorrow i may go icognito. i dont know how easy it is to create another facebook acct byt know more than one can be created at the same IP address just need a throwaway email account and a 'popular name' like sarah smith.

is cat on friends reunited do you know, or any of them? if we can find one there and pull a name from class year list then we have something to go on.

bt is it illegal?

sm
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Incoming Homecoming

Hi Laffin

Well - he didn't do too well in finding out about N**** if the content of that PM I sent you contained any grain of truth. Was your last one more than 5 years ago?

I'll try and get into the viper's den tomorrow - it's a long journey and the IP localisation will give them a headache Take care

Van
Morning Laffin

Hope this finds you still in *************.

Raptors have just welcomed a new member (Sassy) - found the podcast area ..... and no updates

Best wishes

Val xx

PS Loved your second response to Cushty

Who would like their port scanned by Drachen....

I will personally keep and eye out for that IP address in future. Port scanning the IP address can be a good way of identifying the person if they have not taken suitable security protection such as a firewall. However. I would not recommend it as it port scanning is frowned upon by most ISP's and you could end up getting your Internet connection pulled. Normally if the ISP suspect you have been port scanning they usually issue you with a gentle warning first as some programs can port scan without the knowledge of the person in question. Hope this helps.

DrachenSachen

Those of you who have had run ins with Drachen might want to check your firewall logs for port scanning from an NTL ip from Scunthorpe and report it to NTL/Virgin. It is certainly against their TOS.