Studies In Diseased Subjects

Marky Is A Mod But...

2010-08-28T04:21:00.001-07:00

Antoinette wrote:

"Something is not right with him. I can't put my finger on it but he's the 1st person on here that I don't trust. Yes his jokes are sometimes funny but the rest of his comments seem to be negative against this forum. He left this one in SSS this morning."

Re: Can we try something on here with blog owners please?
Marky Today at 7:41 am

i realised that a little ways back. so if there's a mole in the mods section, it's one of you guys. as for who it is that's passed out info from this section...

personally, i've never been comfortable with those who choose to hide their online status.

FSoares replied:

"I read that comment and I was about to answer him, but then decided not to, because I don't want to start any conflict with a member. It's a very unfortunate comment by Mark. There are still some members who did not understand what happened yet, or pretend they don't.
Even today I read ChaosRaptors and how I wish I could know who are the members here who posted there anonymously who still say Eddie wasn't the mole, etc. It's rather annoying."

Eddie says: Something is not right with Marky but now they have made him a moderator

Looks Like A Bus, Moves Like A Bus, It's a Bus Then

2010-08-09T02:57:00.000-07:00

Pull The Other One

2010-08-02T03:00:00.000-07:00

Panda wrote: Actually [redacted], this was the way Beattie got hacked. A post with his/her name on the thread was altered and appeared on BonnyBraes as a disgusting post supposedly written by Beattie. Another poster spotted it and told one of the Moderators that Beattie would never write anything like that but He/ She was banned anyway.

Get a grip, woman, Panda and Beattie are the same person.

Dusk Till Dawn

2010-05-04T06:24:00.000-07:00

New private area according to Little Birdie.

Members a couple of weeks ago. Some have bitten the dust since then.

Ambersuz, pm, MsTaken, lubelle, fuzeta, Allstar, YoullNeverGuess, Quincy, Krisy22, laurie, Angelina, Antoinette, lincs, Jennifer, Dogwood, jjp, mumbles, lynn, charlie, FSoares, MCXLIII, lnorton, halfamo, kitti, Christine, fizzbomb200, amethyst, carlymichelle, dazedandconfused, fishie, julygirl3210, wjk, woodward, Dimsie, Skybolt, Bren, ann_chovey, Marky, CaptnMorgan, mara thon, saloongirl, MaryPoppins, patat, Judge Dread, Schnuffel, MJH1901, AntiCS, Photon, Heartsease, MoondampRoses, lea, Fudge, Alfiefinn, Alpine Aster, MilkyWay, frankie stein, margaret, Annabel, fred, Claudia79, the one and only big_l, Roasted Arizona, roisin, Kazlux, deborah, HiDeHo, Lioned, Badboy, tabs, The Famous Grouse, flower, Lilemor, Jem, T4two, MaryB, Hare, AnnaEsse, malena stool, welshy, Frangendapenik, Estelle, RIORITA, pamalam, keepingmum, POPPY1, Luz, ashwil, Maelstrom, pennylane

2010-04-29T08:02:00.000-07:00

Read what our good friend, Larry the Lemur says.
Like Eddie, Norman always tells the truth.
Monty the mole is still burrowing away and will have news for us soon.

SSS: Government Involvement :)))

2010-04-09T15:51:00.000-07:00

carly: i have never understand in the last 2 anda half years we pro maddie have been harrased slandered out and yet we are supposed to take it and not fight back why are those people and the uk goverment so behind gerry and kate???no offence to little maddie but what makes her any diffremt from other mising kids? that dont even get a mention in the media

Angelina: I'm not convinced there is Gvt involvement. If there is then I feel it could be because GB got involved right at the start in an effort to impress the public (thinking in his usual manner that he would save the day and get her found), then it went tits up and he has now tried to play everything down so he won't look stupid. Anything more complicated than that I'm not sure about.

If I'm wrong and there is more to the Gvt involvement, then I have no idea what is being covered up.

As for ordinary pros, I'm sure they do honestly believe the McCanns are innocent and feel sorry for them.

Plus it's a sort of mob mentality and brain-washing (not organised but just by being part of it if you see what I mean). They've got carried away and it's brought out the worst in them (anti's can be just as bad at times).

I think a lot of them have got together (I know for sure there was a big meeting in Wales some months back) and now they've formed a sort of club, but sadly the real little girl in the midde of it all has long been forgotten.

I've noticed on Sky there is a sort of formation that rolls into action at times...the lower ranks come out to fight, then the next level and finally the big guns...it's all rehearsed and organised. The same stock answers come out time and time again...like a mantra almost.

Eddie says: OK, this is a new game. If anyone alludes in any way to potential involvement of government, you all shout in unison "GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT!" Got it. :)))

GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT! :)))

Allstar: To me it seems like the govt want to keep alot quiet as half whats in the files havent been released to the pubic via the media. If someone can come up with an explanation for that then I'll believe the govt arent protecting the Mccanns.

Eddie says: GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT! :)))

Woodward: morning all-The REASON WHY THE "pros" are so vicious could simply be because they can be-none of us has carter -ruck on a retainer,none of us are able to pick the ,phone up and instruct a tabloid journalist to have a go at someone-they are vituperous ,slanderous and vile because there are no consequences . We on the other hand are ,quite rightly imo, restricted and restrained by the law-gratuitous insults have no place in our arguments our opinions have to be carefully shrouded in disclaimers and tempered by fairness backed up-most importantly by reason-it all makes for a slower more restrained discussion which means the pros can jump in with irrelevances and half truths which then literally make any casual reader lose the thread-that is the intent and it works-the best reference for people iinterested in the case is ,imo, the mccannfiles, I would always recommend it to those who want to learn more of the ever changing story and its chronology

julygilr3120: We will never give up discussing this case, despite attempts to stop us. We will regroup, much to the chagrin of the ex-mods forum, and the press whom they profess to have been in contact with. And the government doesn't scare me either. The present shower are on the way out anyhow. The unelected PM with a name the colour of sh*t is in the last chance saloon.

Eddie says: GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT!

Patty O'Daws: I could understand the McCanns paying people, but the government? I know Clarrie said it was the function of MMU to control what came out in the media...but to pay people to troll forums?

Would the government really do that?

Eddie says: GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT! :)))

Stimulator: You are waking up! Yes the government Mi5, and the 'doughnut' brigade (GCHQ) are/have been infiltrating forums and 'subversive' groups online for years! to the 'paranoid shift'....

Eddie says: GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT! :)))

fred: I'd say pretty close. I don't think Amaral will leave this case alone, even if it takes him years to get the truth out, he is being hindered at every occasion, not just from the parents but, the governemnt and British authorities.

Eddie says: GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT! :)))

Heartsease: Away with all accusations etc and concentrate on ways we can get the investigation opened. Surely that is what everyone wants after all?
I just want to see justice done in this case. I want the government to put a little girl first and start asking relevant questions.
Whatever happened in PDL needs to be uncovered and the truth told.

To the world you may be just one person,
but to one life you may be the world.

Eddie says: GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT! :)))

More Economy With The Truth

2010-04-09T09:54:00.000-07:00

carly in an open letter: hi i dont mean this to cause trouble i like this forum lots and ikm not angry at anyone BUT i dont like being lied too i now know why i cant see the private forum because some of you think im sharing log ins etc let me make it clear now in no way do i share my log ins with anyone nor do i allow others to tell me to do anything im only here for maddie and the mssing other children as i said i like this forum but it is not right to lie about the reasons why forums that you were allowed in for months and months you are suddenly not allowed and of all places to read about it at the twats etc is not right IMO im just a forumer wanting the justice for maddie she deserves and that is all i have no problems with anyone on this forum but IMO the truth is better then being lied too most people have known me on forums for 3 years and know im not like this i guess it hurt me that people would be talking behind my back and saying these things about me its like primary school again when kids used to do it to me im sorry but i had to say something unlike what some other think im not stupid and i dont like being treated like it i dont want to argue im not like that

Antoinette replied: Carly no one suspects you of anything. The SSS was closed down to all members except mods as we don't want anything more being printed about any of you or the comments you all have made in those sections.

Eddie says: No that reply is totally untrue. The had a secret section, SSSection, which was infiltrated on several fronts. So they decided to set up a new secret section, The Leisure Centre, deleting all those SSS members they did not trust. Later on, both sections were still infiltrated and they decided to close the SSS to all members except mods. When TLC opened, we had this

Ambersuz: I hate making rules amongst friends but for the sake of our privacy we need to have just a few in place, so here goes:

1. NO links to other forums in this section unless you add some xxxx's within the link so no one can directly click onto it.

2. This forum should not be mentioned outside of this section whatsoever.

Then we have this today:

Antoinette: there was no process of elimination. All members were locked out at the same time. If we were trying to eliminate anyone we would have taken them out one by one not altogether.

Eddie says: Not true, is it? When in a hole, stop digging. Oops, here comes trouble...

Ambersuz: Carly I dont mean to be mean girly but you are getting very paranoid lately and after all the time I spent explaining this via pm's why are you now making this public?

I'll say it again to you here.....

If you keep taking those blogs and forums personal then you have 2 options.....either DONT read them or read them and be upset by them....you have been saying for the last year here that they are liars and here you are believing them?

May I remind everyone that the usergroups are for people I invite in for whatever reasons I choose to create them....if you are in or out then I have my reasons for adding or removing members and those reasons I do NOT have to discuss with every single member of this forum before I make those decisions so if you dont like the forum or the way I run it then feel free to create your own....Simple isnt it?

I cant keep everyone here happy and to be honest I'm past caring as this forum is not providing a service to anyone! This was a friendly forum where everyone was happy to come here and now all I get is bitching or trolls here trying to take the forum down and pretending we have viruses here!

Now I'm not getting paranoid and I would think after all the hard work the mods and myself have put into this forum I would be the first one worried....but I'm not because I wont let the idiots like Majic and his bitch witches get me down like they seem to get you down!

Eddie says: Any reasonable person can see what the truth is here.

Sherlock, They Don't Know Jack Schitt 2

2010-04-09T01:37:00.000-07:00

Ambersuz: I've started a new section and intend on leaving quite a few out of it until I see who it is so for now try and avoid the SSS and discuss only on the new section (TLC) or Portugal or here..

OK can anyone see it yet?

Harvesmom: I can

eddiemod; Me too

Ambersuz: ok cool so only the mods are in !!

who else?

...I mean 100% all agreed we want them there!

So if at least 2 of us doesnt trust (for instance)...Carly then Carly is out. But it has to be 2 mods who agree.....fair?

Harvesmom: Yes thats fair Amber. The only thing is you've mentioned on the SSS that you are setting up a new section , those that arent invited are going to be moaning like drains about it. Maybe you should say you've changed your mind and you dont care if they can read or something?

Ambersuz: Oh dont worry about that....when people pm me asking where it is...I'll say I bluffed to get the trolls wondering where it is....

[General chit chat...]

eddie mods pulls them into line: We are chatting on Amber's serious thread.

There is a chat thread on the new section

FSoares on "twats": What a bunch of idiots they are, looking like those bully kids at school! Sometimes I think if I had the misfortune to be one of their mothers, I would spank them till they would go to hospital, completely black from the bruises! Gosh, they're so irritating.

Ambersuz: I'm thinking of bringing threads over to the new section so they are stuck with just the ones about the twats....

OUCH just thought..............the Miss World one is there! I dont want them to ever find that...but I think its a bit late. [No schitt, we don't do personal stuff.]

David: Also is TLC a hidden group? [sort of hidden. :) ]

Ambersuz: Yes it is....all the groups are [sort of :) ]

David: Eddie has been very quiet on his/her blog. Who is Eddie? I confuse all their names [Eddie's just this guy, you know.]

Ambersuz: I think Eddie is CrazyTony on Twats....but dont quote me

He's gone quiet cause he's not in the SSS

[Come off it.]

Sherlock, They Don't Know Jack Schitt

2010-04-08T15:59:00.001-07:00

In days of old before the eddiemodgate scandal.

Harvemom: We do have a mole who can see the SSS. Or someone has been careless following links, but I dont think there has been any links for a while.

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/portuguese-friends-room-f56/mole-avoidance-thread-t6815-90.htm

They've copied Lauras comment on this thread in the SSS onto that daft blog something to do with diseased minds:

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/sssection-f79/according-to-the-spite-site-ed-the-spy-ed-not-our-ed-is-in-here-t7841-30.htm

FSoares: I'm with Harversmom. There's a mole or someone inside is pretending. Now there's no doubt.

Harvesmom: Well i've just been through everyone who's logged on since 2pm, and compared the list to who is in the SSS. But of course it doesnt tell you the members that come in as hidden.

FSoares: That's exactly the problem. I need to go to bed, because tomorrow I have to start at 9am, but during the day, if I don't have to go out, I'll keep an eye as well, though I can't be paying too much attention. It'll be just a small control.

Harvesmom: Well i've added all the people who've been in as hidden in the last 24 hours, and to be honest 90 percent of the members of the SSS have been logged on so it hasnt helped much....

David: I am with you both on this. I think someone has been careless clicking links. BUT because the internet is a logical world we need to cover all aspects i.e. eliminate the possibility of a double agent working for the TWATS as FSoares mentioned on SSS...

I still dont believe there is a mole but still....the only way to stop anyone seeing this section is to take it all down.

Ambersuz: I personally dont care what they see so I'll leave it up to all of you to make the decision if it should stay or go

eddiemod: You can see who's hidden - they are in italics [No schitt.]

FSoares: In my opinion, if the section is kept, everybody needs to remember there's someone from the twats (or linked to them) who is registered on this forum, with access to the SSS. What saddens me is knowing we can't talk openly or post something there more sensitive, because they will get access to it. I personally think there's no point in having the section, if there's no privacy. I know many of you generally say "I don't care if they read". Well, I also don't care if they read, IF what I post are merely my opinions. However, sometimes we have things we could say, but we don't because we know they are reading it and that info cannot reach their hands.
It's quite obvious there's a fake identity on the SSS, probably a cloned account, or a double agent. In the present situation the SSS's existence is a pure falacy.

Ambersuz: OK here's what we should do.....

If all the mods look at the members in the SSS and make a list here of who should be in a new section....I know its easier moving them to the Portugal section but thats not fair as that section was set up just for the Portuguese posters and as thats 100% safe I dont want to rock the boat there.

I'd rather have just a few people in the new section...maybe 15 or 20 and leave it at that.

Obviously all the mods are in....so who else can be trusted and who are you all comfortable with?

FSoares: I have no idea about carlymichelle, except she is a computer game addict and she posts in all forums related to Australian TV. She's been bad mouthed by the Twats & Co, and according to it, my bet would be on someone else, though. However, Carlymichelle can be used by someone (posing as a friend) to get the contents and info from her.

Claudia79: Well, as I'm a Benfica supporter I've been telling lies to myself for quite some time! [No schitt, Liverpool 4 Benfica 1]

eddiemod: Firstly Amber, please don't think we're all in Paranoid City here....I just have instincts, I watch that person and I just 'feel' that person is odd.

Ok secondly, I understand when you say that so what it doesn't matter if there is a mole - I agree. It's just bloody annoying that's all.

Thirdly, if I were a mole on a forum I would be IT smart (smarter than most too) I would already have 3 or 4 ID's (all very different) in case one of them was found out and I would use different email addys, and IP's etc etc

So in a nutshell I will look at the list and tell you what I think, we'll all compare lists and go from there.

Ambersuz: One thing I'd like to say is I will not add Laffin to the list as he gets drunks and sprouts off nonsense......its not that I dont trust him but I just cant be bothered with his rants and me having to clear up his acusations.

Dont get me wrong......I'm the first one to expose people but only those ones who are attacking the forum and I'll only expose with proof....Nessling i believe was at one stage but Deuce I dont have any evidence of.

Picking on anyone because they are friends of, is not going to be allowed in the future as it adds us to their enemy list.

Photon asked me a few weeks back to let Laffin into the Portuguese section and I said NO way! [No schitt, Sherlock]

Claudia79: Marky just made me raise my eyebrows on the SSS.

eddiemod: I agree about Laffin. [No schitt]

Ok here's the list of SS members I have crossed the ones I don't trust or don't know enough:

Maybe everyone else can do the same?

Alfiefinn
Alpine Aster
Ambersuz
Angelina
antiCS
Antoinette
~~Badboy~~
Bren
Captnmorgan
~~carlymichelle~~
Claudia79
David
~~dazedandconfused~~
~~deborah~~
eddie
fishie
Frangendapenik
Frankie Stein
fred
FSoares
fuzeta
~~Gobsmacked~~
~~Hare~~
Harvesmom
jjp
~~julygirl3210~~
~~Kazlux~~
~~Laffin Assasin~~
Laurie
Lioned
~~mara thon~~
~~Marky~~
MCXLIII
MJH1901
~~MoondampRoses~~
MsTaken
~~Mumbles~~
Pabby
patat
Patchouli
Photon
pm
Poinksy
~~ProfMoriarty~~
Quincy
~~rammy~~
~~Reggie Dunlop~~
~~roisin~~
~~sprite~~
The Famous Grouse
the one and only big_l
~~xklamation~~

ps Deborah is crazy that's why she's crossed and I don't particularly care for photon but haven't crossed her. [No schitt]

Eddie says: Next episode tomorrow...

How They Wanted To Spin It

2010-04-07T14:24:00.000-07:00

Ambersuz: I want eddie to make a statement on the main forum saying that she is leaving for personal reasons so we can move on. I dont want for this to be an ongoing fight for her sake so I am giving her the easy way out. This is not going to become a BonnyBraes scenario all over again like it was with the 3A's!

I will leave eddie here until tomorrow and then ban her account. So I hope she makes her excuses on the main forum by then.

eddiemod: I am not LYING and making an announcement that I am leaving - I'll let you decide what you want to say Amber. Why don't you post your 'proof'? Such as it is.

Eddie says: We all now know that eddiemod is innocent but where's the apology. Fair's fair, as they say.

Time For An Apology

2010-04-06T13:50:00.000-07:00

We are getting a bit of thread drift here.

Ambersuz: Just letting you all know as he [David] is standing by eddie which I knew would happen whatever the weather but we ended on a good note....

I said he wasnt [sic] able to change my mind without proof and that proof is up to eddie to get from her new found friends....

I want the challenge answered....without it there's no apology!

Numbers Guy: I mentioned this to FSoares a while back.

I'm absolutely certain that they keep a 'file' on everyone of us. At JATYK they even mention your faulty computer back in Jan 12th and my help.

eddie was the one who PM'd me about your problem but there was also a few posts about the subject on SSS, so they could have picked it from there.

FSoares: Yes, like I told you I also believe they have a file about each on of us. This sounds pathetic, but they really must have. We can't slip nothing on keyboard, that they pick everything.

As for David, he really is a good boy and must have a long frienship [sic] with Eddie. Instead of trying to get the facts first, he is just defending her, and the best evidence he has, is that she can't screenshot. This is amazing as there's one sticky on how to screenshot, and I also remember we've explained Frangendapenik on the PT section, how to take screeenshots.

FSoares to Claudia79: Now they may threaten to post the pics of your cat!

(No we won't, nice little creature that it is.)

Ambersuz (indelicately): OMG they've hit the jackpot....your pussy and my boobs....now all they need is someones [sic] ass!

Claudia79: He's a sniffer cat and he's the best at sniffing Whiskas, Friskies, Royal Canin, Sheba, Hills, etc.

Claudi79 (suggestively) : Isn't my pussy beautiful?

Ambersuz: Its [sic] the nicest I've seen hun

Numbers Guy: Bye , don't let the trolls give you nightmares.

Roman Numeral Man Is Watching

2010-04-05T15:26:00.000-07:00

Not exactly GCHQ, is it?

The Mods on LA

2010-04-04T16:05:00.000-07:00

MCXLIII: We should find a way to lock Laffin for the night too.

Amber: Anyways I told him that if he wanted to come back he had to ensure that he was not to post any violent crap and NOT attack the members....I also told him that if he had any suspects to bring it to the mods to deal with. He agreed and I asked him if he thought the mole was eddie and he said he was sure he had made that clear. I told him in future to stop talking in fricking riddles as it would have saved alot of us all this stress.

FSoares: I've locked the "An apology from me" thread, because now it was slipping again to Laffin's threats and the fact he was allowed back. Oops, this is so crazy, that I've locked it, to avoid a snow ball effect. To be honest, I'm starting to get tired of all these members who can't cope with Laffin.

Claudia79: I'm fed up too. Feel like telling them to grow up.

Antoinette: LAFFIN IS IN. HE HAS BEEN TO THE PUB. I HOPE HE DOESNT GET STROPPY ON HERE

Claudia79: You should be able to ban him at night and unban him in the morning!

MCXLIII: A ON/OFF switch with remote control

Claudia79: How many times can he repeat the same effing thing???

MCXLIII: As many times a he goes to the pub?

Claudia79: We should send him to rehab!

MsTaken: Laffin says the same thing over and over again therefore he isnt the ideal person to be critical of the bloggers but I doubt anyone can change his attitude.

Amber: He is going to get us more reports. I'm going to tell him to shut the fuck up or he's going to be banned!

This is his last warning!

I've sent him a strong warning...this is his last chance.

Claudia79: Is he really like that all the time or only when he drinks?
Does he ever learn?

Amber: I think he's around my age but even so.....I know he says he's looking out for this forum but we can handle it far more diplomatically than he has proved he can....besides all i need now is to waste more time on those pathetic litigations the trolls send the moment they see Laffin getting violent.

From TLC

2010-04-03T15:56:00.001-07:00

Yes, our mole can get that too. :)

Here is an example.

Ambersuz:

"I've put activation back to admin so they cant [sic] just log in...

The problem when admin activates they arent [sic] getting emails as there seems to be a glitch. Anyways I've banned the ip now as its [sic] using the same one."

More Evidence

2010-04-03T09:53:00.000-07:00

We gave you the name. Now we give you the photo.

After Much Deep Thought...

2010-04-02T15:13:00.000-07:00

this is our answer.

SSSection Lite

2010-04-02T14:26:00.000-07:00

Members of SSSection seem to be slowly disappearing as the search for the mole goes on.

Moley is still there though.

Claudia79 fancies George Clooney. :)

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Disquiet In The SSS As Reason Starts to Surface To Realise Eddiemod Is Innocent

2010-03-31T14:22:00.000-07:00

Marky: this section safe yet?

(Eddie: Depends what you mean by safe.)

Marky: i realised that a little ways back. so if there's a mole in the mods section, it's one of you guys. as for who it is that's passed out info from this section...

personally, i've never been comfortable with those who choose to hide their online status.

Antoinette: so if it's one of the mods that are left why hasn't there been any more leaks from the mods section.

(Eddie: We choose not to play your game.)

The Famous Grouse replies to Antoinette: So we will all think it was Eddie[mod]?

(Eddie: No, we don't want you to think that.)

FSoares: Are you all implying it was any of the other Mods then?

TFG: I am not implying anything, or accusing anyone. I just feel that although Eddie[mod] has left, and there are no more apparent leaks, it doesn't actually prove that it was Eddie[mod]. If I were a mole, and I wanted to deflect the blame onto somebody else, that's how I would have done it.

(Eddie: The first sentence is correct but the second isn't.)

Marky: they say it wasn't eddie[mod] and the mole is still in place. you say no leaks since eddie[mod] went. if the latter then no problem and it's all now just a windup to get the forum to turn on itself. just ignore it

(Eddie: It wasn't eddiemod. How many more times?)

Antoinette: Who is the blame being deflected on???
From what I can see I'm the one being blamed for posting the link. It has been proven that by clicking on these links that you cannot get into the mods section. So that theory didn't work.

Marky: there's someone moling in this section, there's no doubt of that.

(Eddie: OK, Sherlock.)

Angelina: How do you know?

I don't read any other forum (I seem to be banned from them all, don't know why) so I can't read anything.

Are you in the mod section?

Marky: the debate about hbts's avatar which was played out, i believe, in this section, has appeared post for post, on the deseased minds blog. i know. i read it, even got a credit. so was our little err, fun and games last friday afternoon when antoinette set me up to be a stripper; still owe you for that one corky!

(Eddie: for those of you in the SSS but not in the uber secret TLC, ask yourselves why not.)

FSoares: I've been trying to not comment here, but since Sunday night (21st march), nothing else has been leaked from the Mods section ...

2010-03-29T13:33:00.001-07:00

Yet.

David Demands An Apology

2010-03-29T03:52:00.000-07:00

"I am absolutely livid and disgusted at the way eddie has been treated. She is not the mole and never was.

I am fuming because Harvesmom has been called a puppet on a string and subsequently me.

I come back after a week's holiday and have seen no indication of any truth whatsoever!

I am not naming anyone but to those who have trashed, manipulated, backstabbed and LIED I demand an apology. I am too bloody angry to post but when I have calmed down I will say my side of the story.

And Bren get off your high horse you are nothing but a liar!!"

How very true, David.

eddie is innocent
Harvesmom is innocent
David is innocent

A little less Kama Sutra, a little more Sun Tzu

2010-03-27T07:50:00.000-07:00

"And dont worry....BB1 is full of hot air...if my account could have been hacked they would have done it long ago and taken down this forum"

Strategy, Custer, strategy....

A Serious Matter

2010-03-27T05:17:00.000-07:00

Ambersuz wrote:

"eds, if Bren's jealous of this forum why on earth did she give me all the information on the past 3A members to compare to the members here? How do you think I know who the trolls are? It isn't through my instincts!!"

That's right, the admin of one forum took personal details of her members and gave them to the admin of another forum.

I need to add no more.

Case study- 3As hasbeens, googlestalking and YOU

2010-03-26T21:59:00.000-07:00

A poster with the nickname Housebythesea took rightful umbrage to an unprompted attack by Laffin Assasin on MM.
Apparently Laffin did not like the poster's avatar.

MM moderator Antoinette decided to apologise.
Now witness how the 3As gang use the flimsiest of excuses to google stalk a poster:

Antoinette:

I feel bad for HBTS though. She didn't do anything wrong and is getting dragged into this. I'm going to post an explanation to her on the
thread to explain.

Good idea....Woof!!

jjp:

Just one thought - I wonder what HBTS actually googled to find that avatar? It certainly was not 'house by the sea'.

Enter Hercule Poirot.

Bren:

No I have been through 50 pages of google pictures .

Only 50?

FSoares:

And there's a little of arrogance on her last post. I can understand her reasons, but it's up to her to say or to leave. I'm too tired to type today and answer her, but she doesn't need to lecture anyone now.

Add a dash of character assassination.......

Marky:

maybe downloaded from a camera/phone and uploaded from the pc. wouldn't be unheard of would it?

Sounds reasonable. Back on track......

Photon:

But that's not how they said they acquired it Marky - they said it was randomly chosen from a google search. on Studies site. Obviously, only mods can vouch for this accuracy of this quote. But, if it's accurate, I would say that HBTS is lying (again) imho.

Oh Dear. Poster says they randomly chose the image from google. 3As hasbeens cannot find said image in google therefore poster is evil.
Angelina:

I don't quite understand...what is the relevance of that picture? Is it someone's house on here?

Good Question.

Photon:

It seems to be relevant to Laffin, if you read the PM exchange that HBTS forwarded to the mods (posted on Diseased Subjects blog).

"It seems to be relevant to Laffin"
There you have it!
------------------------

Recap:

Laffin Assasin made a veiled threat to another person's children on an alleged missing children's forum and was banned by Eddiemod.
Laffin Assasin also threatened another poster(HBTS) because he was suspicious of the poster's avatar.(I'm not kidding, dogs don't lie and that.)

What was the result?
Eddiemod was banned (and just to be crystal clear, Eddiemod has never given information to this blog.)
Laffin Assasin was reinstated on the forum.
HBTS resigned and was subsequently googlestalked by the 3As hasbeens because they could not locate the image in google.

Official Statement

2010-03-26T14:48:00.000-07:00

Please note that we would like to make an announcement concerning the fate of the moderator known as eddie and her two friends David and Harvesmom.

We can state categorically that we have never received any information from eddie or her friends.

We have noted how these people have been prejudged without evidence and have subsequently been subject to mobbing and character assassination by the admin, the remainder of the moderators of the forum in question, members of private forums including members of an erstwhile ex (in the "dead parrot" sense) forum.

The vilification and defamation that occurred is totally wrong since eddie has done absolutely nothing in relation to this blog.

Of course, we will not be revealing our true sauce since that would be a breach of confidence.

End of announcement.

They've Got This Mole

2010-03-24T06:49:00.000-07:00

The Sauce Lives!

Add Another To The List

2010-03-23T15:38:00.000-07:00

Antoinette:

Edd, I know you didn't like Bren photon & jjp but did you have to go about it in this way to try and get rid of them.

You were a well-trusted person on this forum and you fucked it all up just because you didn't like a few people. As I said before I don't like Bren but I'm not going to go out of my way to get rid of her.

Cannot believe you could misuse the trust everyone had in you on here. I'm sure there is an explanation to this but for the life of me I can't think of 1. One thing though at least it's out in the open now and we can all get back to normal knowing we have no mole about.

Emotional Blackmail

2010-03-22T14:26:00.000-07:00

Stick with this one to see the whole story.

Antoinette:

Pm's from house by the see

laffin sent these to him

2nd message is one he has sent to Amber also

LAFFIN ASSASSIN

From Housebythesea To Antoinette, Today at 9:10 am
Antoinette,

I am going to forward on to you the messages I have left for Ambersuz, and which she hasn't picked up yet. Hopefully, they will be self-explanatory, especially if you read the two threads concerned.

I only joined here quite recently, and I will not tolerate someone's blatant attempts to bully me or others. I have given Laffin no cause for any complaint, nor have I indicated any sympathy with my McCann brigade - far from it !

If you would like to start by reading those messages, perhaps?

Thank you
HBTS

Inbox :: Message
LAFFIN ASSASSIN

From Housebythesea To Antoinette, Today at 9:12 am
As discussed

Dear Ambersuz,

I wish to complain about the above poster, who appears to have decided to single me out for his unwelcome attentions, starting with some very odd private messages, and continuing this evening with a series of allegations, seemingly about my motives for being here. Please look at these two threads

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/main-maddie-thread-latest-news-f1/rosiepops-at-it-again-t9051.htm

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/main-maddie-thread-latest-news-f1/ze-list-t9087.htm

Now, I don't know what his problem is. He seems to be under the impression that anyone who can string a sentence together is some kind of 'mole', which is beyond paranoid, frankly. His behaviour is rude and abusive in the extreme, and if he thinks he's bullying me off the forum he can think again.

I only joined here recently. I've been enjoying posting, and cannot see where I could have possibly given offence. I am very disappointed that Laffin seems to believe it's okay to behave in this fashion, whilst at the same time criticising other forums for the way they treat people.

I am forwarding to you the interchange of private messages between he and I . As you will see, I became alarmed by the tone and asked him to take it up with yourself if he had a problem.

I'd like to know what you intend to do about this, please. I appreciate he has been here a lot longer than me, but that does not give him the right to attempt to bully me off the forum for no other reason than his own groundless paranoia.

Thank you

HBTS

Expert opinion.

2010-03-21T17:03:00.001-07:00

Bren offers her advice:

I know many people came here from the old 3A's, I am not saying the old 3A's was perfect because it was not, it was a learning curve for many of us. The only forums I took part in before running the old 3a's and the new 3a's was Daily Mirror Hunt for Maddy forum and Bar Arguido (which lasted about 3 weeks). And I know some people do not want to hear about the old 3a's but sometimes things have to be mentioned whether we like it or not.
When the old 3a's went, Amber had been running this forum for months before, and she had no problems at all. But she kindly took in every member that had no home to post on and her and her mods made everyone welcome. Amber and her team have never had to deal with troll invasions, people trying to cause problems, hacking of accounts, cloning of accounts, sustained attacks on a forum, complaints going into hosts etc, like we did on the old 3a's, until she gave everyone a home.
Amber and her team are still on that learning curve and they need everyone to help them.
To Amber and her team, I take my hat off to, because not many people would have taken on what you have taken on. People are out there and want to divide and conquer and they will try everything, even down to try and insinuate that there is "bad blood" between forums. Ignore them, there is no bad blood, there is no animosity, there is no knifes being drawn at dawn, it is all scaremongering and raking up people's paranoia.
There are 3 forums out there in cyberworld, and 3 forums that are united in Justice for Madeleine, and 3 forums that value new members and new ideas and opinions. Please don't listen to the distractor's, the disruptors and ignore them completely, they are out to cause problems between people so that in the end mods and admin feel "bugger this for a game of soldiers" and close their doors.
As I said Amber and her team are still learning, they will come across new problems every day, they will make mistakes, just like everyone else, but once a mistake is made they will rectify. Just give them support and time to sort things out.

eddie the mod on Bren and co

2010-03-21T16:03:00.001-07:00

Amber the people on this forum ie bren, jjp etc are arseholes.

Eddie (not me, woof) suggests a new filing system for Bren's opinions

2010-03-21T15:55:00.000-07:00

Eddie to David:

David I am not discussing this anymore. I am more annoyed at the fucking hypocrisy of the prats who want their accouts deleted! Let them fuck off then, and Bren can stick her comments up her stupid tight arse.

Amber's donation and eddie doesn't like Bren and Photon

2010-03-21T15:48:00.000-07:00

Ambersuz to eddie (Not me ! the other eddie! woof!):

There's no rules but as a mod you should do whats best for the forum.....TB was part of this forum and was taking money from people....I sent him over £500 so I think I have reason to speak out about a fraudster!
If we are comparing now and since you're having a dig at me about TB, what about Kazcut? You went out of your way to be nice to that nasty bitch for over a year on Sky and no one told you not to!
I know you are itching to take out Bren and Photon and a few others....because your instinct tells you you dont like them.....thats not a good enough reason IMO.....sorry!

FSoares has a confession.......

2010-03-21T15:45:00.000-07:00

To be honest, I am going to make you a confession here: we read the PMs from the 1st hacked database. You may not know the full story, but NBrado has put the database on the internet for download. Of course downloading it, wasn't enough to crack and start reading because NBrado never expected someone else outside his group could crack it, but, with the help of someone who's also a member on this forum, we were able to read it. After what I read, I can garantee you there's someone almost everybody loves, holding another forum, and if you had the chance to read what we read, you'd be surprised and probably shocked at the arrogance. However, nobody suspects that person can be that arrogant. Bren has never open her mouth about it. As for Bren doubting ashwill, I wouldn't give too much importance to it, believe me. If paranoia is in the air, it can happen. We all doubt some posters sometimes, to later find out they are genuine. It has happened to me as well.

Hoiler Than Thou

2010-03-21T11:06:00.000-07:00

We seem to have been receiving visits from this address:

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/moderators-lounge-f33/bren-s-holier-than-thou-post-t9119-105.htm

D'oh!!

Moderators lounge?

Bren's holier than thou post?

All is not happy in the mod asylum.

Too many....conflicts of interest.

Stay tuned.

There appears to be a traitor in their midst.......

The Cryptic One

2010-03-15T05:54:00.000-07:00

Speak up, man, say what you mean.

"The spies are in here, as I thought they might be."

"Now I know, who twitches my radar ?

Who twitches yours ?"

"Deep-embedded, and trying to be 'holier' than thou !!

It's the same stunt's [sic] that were 'pulled' at 3 A's [sic] in it's [sic] latter days.

So that points towards 'certain' folks.

the 'target' gets smaller by the day."

----

"Do tell then [redacted], dont [sic] keep us in suspense."

---

"It's hard to explain, fully.

But look at who was attempting to cause chaos tonight at around 6;30 till seven 7;30, then go and have a looks [sic] around some of the anti blogs.

That attempt at the '[redacted]' stunt was started elsewhere, but it's been deleted now.

[redacted]'s blog was interesting at around 6:38. then following the trail and seeing who did what was quite illuminating.

It's the same old tried and tested methods, it's time they thought up a new Modus operandi.

Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer, is an old political saying, I believe."

---

"More riddles."

---

"[redacted] can you tell me whats [sic] on your mind please?"

---

Private Forums

2010-03-09T03:27:00.000-08:00

OK, the SSS is pretty dead now after leaking like a sieve.

A number of respected members have been disenfranchised as they have set up a new forum for the real trusties.

It's called TLC.

The Sauce and Little Birdie are still active moling away.

TLC? Tender Loving Care? No, the more prosaic The Leisure Centre.

Temper Temper

2010-02-28T16:14:00.001-08:00

"FFS I don't care anymore I have not told anyone to hound [redacted] over this, I don't care if it is true or not, I am just fúckíng sick of being dragged into things which I am not party to and those that know the truth fail to speak out. Sorry but this has now gone beyond a joke, I am not responsible for what others do, I do not hold guns to peoples head and tell them to do this or else. He made [redacted]'s life hell, [redacted] was being blamed for being someone on a forum when he was not, [redacted] and I could not allow that, [redacted] was sassy on his crappy forum and we could not allow [redacted] to take the blame. Do I regret putting him right, yes and no. Yes in the way it was done but no for putting him straight. Perhaps it would have been best just to come out and admit on 3a's (sic) that [redacted] can't be sassy because [redacted] is and end it there, hindsight is a wonderful thing. But we wanted to still try and keep sassy in the forum to find out what was being said and what attacks were being said.

There is a whole lot of truth that none of you know and truth that will never be spoken, no matter how much it needs to be told, but I know for a fact it is because of the truth that [redacted], [redacted] and myself are so viciously attacked. Well it is getting to the point where I don't care if I have one friend or not in this whole mess I will end up speaking it. [redacted] is a stirrer along with the rest of them.

I have never given anybodies (sic) details out to anybody, no matter what is being said. But a lot of things have dawned on me today and I can see things a whole lot clearly. And I am washing my hands of the whole bloody lot of it. Just because I spoke out about those names being put out, it seems I am being slayed for that. As I said these people know the truth, they were all there and they just find it so easy to blame those that were not even party to it and only heard it second hand, just shows what guts they really do have."

Ratting On Each Other

2010-02-26T14:24:00.000-08:00

"Is this [redacted]'s office address? How did they get that?"

Reply:

"The only person who knows that is [redacted, cough] as he sent the booklets here....my office is not in any way connected to my name so you wont (sic) find the company online unless you know the name of it....try googling my name and if you find a connection to my office then I'll eat my hat!"

Someone else was outed too, country roads, nudge nudge wink wink.

Concerning Moles

2010-02-19T14:44:00.000-08:00

"I've tried to look at IP's (sic) here to see if people coming from another forum are known and I cannot see it....so I am sure on other forums it cannot be traced back here but people on blogs must be able to see it....I must ask [redacted] if I can put a link here to her blog, click directly to it and see if she can trace me back to here...."

Reply:

"To read the contents of threads here, they might need to alter some numerical sequence on the referrer link. For instance, on the link I posted as an example, I've altered from 21 to 22. Those without access, trip on the link ending on "21" but changing to "22", it's like being registered. So, even if they can do it, they will just read one specific page from the thread they got the referrer. However, it would be good to not click on any link posted here, because even if they can't read it back, they will know right away the thread's name."

Reply:

"Yes thats (sic) exactly what I thought....its (sic) much the same when you click on a cached page...you only see that particular one.

So basically no mole"

Reply:

"The truth is that if there was anything juicy for them to find and crow about - they would have done so. In reality I suspect that if there is a mole, then that mole is probably bored out of his/her mind by the lack of posts here for them to find fault with."

Reply:

"Oh there's a mole alright (sic, not our house style) but she cannot give them any details that would make them happy as its (sic) all about their trolling friends

What she's looking for is personal stuff about us and there is none here....thats (sic) what she's been ordered to take back.

If they all thought some of us didnt (sic) know about this well they thought wrong....I let her stay and she knows it...I knew their game but they didnt (sic) know mine.... "

Getting Stick

2010-02-18T15:15:00.000-08:00

It gets to them sometimes.

"[redacted]....we had a whole section about Sky rants if you remember.....no one complained about that....why because you all knew what the Sky lot were like and you all bitched about them and made fun of them most of the time AND it was all out in the open unlike this one where we can say what we feel and not have our every word challenged!

The thing is....now I'm admin here and we took on all the 3A members I am the one getting the stick for it just like [redacted] took the stick for being admin of the 3A's (sic)....none of the other mods are getting called names day in and day out....I have a right to defend myself just like you all did day and night on the Sky rant threads and on the other private one for detectives!....we had a whole section about Sky rants if you remember.....no one complained about that....why because you all knew what the Sky lot were like and you all bitched about them and made fun of them most of the time AND it was all out in the open unlike this one where we can say what we feel and not have our every word challenged!

The thing is....now I'm admin here and we took on all the 3A members I am the one getting the stick for it just like [redacted] took the stick for being admin of the 3A's (sic)....none of the other mods are getting called names day in and day out....I have a right to defend myself just like you all did day and night on the Sky rant threads and on the other private one for detectives!"

I Vill Make A Rule

2010-02-17T14:55:00.001-08:00

Power-crazed or what?

"I knew [redacted] would blame someone else. And [redacted] replied to me about one of my posts I made about him, I have told him never to contact me again and that I will be setting up a rule that he will get DO NOT CONTACT ME ANYMORE replies should he try."

Someone is Getting Touchy

2010-02-16T15:23:00.000-08:00

...and swings into action.

"[redacted] playing games and posting cryptic messages - nothing new - but his methodology is flawed when he has to be tipped off.

Perhaps we should all do as [redacted] admits he does and simply play forum games.

It isn't what I came to the forums for though. I suspect lots of people have just allowed themselves to be dragged into the nastiness. Well good luck to the lot of them. They are beneath contempt.

Email and chat with who you like [redacted] and play whatever games you like - enjoy it all and talk whatever gibberish you want.

I will restrict my reading now to serious posters who are not deliberately playing sick games on the memory of a small child, whose motives are not self and ego and vindictiveness, who are not hypocritical by nature and whose interest is the actual case.

Once again you have repeated a question which I have already answered. You did that last night as well. To repeat - I don't intend to stoop as low as those who post up private details everywhere.

First time I have blocked a poster on any forum but consider it done as soon as I find the place to do it. I am fed up with your cryptic comments and game playing and inability to read the answers that you are given.

If this post sees me banned from this forum then so be it."

Superflounce

2010-02-13T16:54:00.000-08:00

"This has got way out of hand now, there is no alternative but to shut these forums down and just give up on this case. There is a whole lot of truth out there that people do not know and unless we go down to their level it will never be known.

I can't sit back and watch [redacted] and [redacted] be destroyed like this and neither can I see other mods threatened that their lives will be exposed by associating themselves with me.

I wish [redacted] all the best, and thanks for allowing me to post here. If you could delete my account [redacted] then perhaps they will lay off you a bit."

Reply:

"This is a very, very sad day. [redacted] has taken a huge amout (sic) of shit for being Admin of 3As (the original) and now Headlines and the New 3As. Despite all of that she has put a phenomenal amount of work into keeping the forums running not to mention dealing with the fall out of the two separate Mod exoduses, and the anxiety and stress surrounding the [redacted] debacle and the later 'open back door' which led to the theft of the database backup files. She didn't deserve a millionth of what was handed out to her. [The opposition] have greater manpower - and the core of them came prepared. They knew the rules of engagement - we didn't. It's very considerate of [redacted] to think of her mods/friends - I very grateful for that (and for lots of other things too).

But - the opposition are not going to give up just because you've gone [redacted]."

She's gone, she's back, she's gone, she's back...

The Plug-in

2010-02-10T15:18:00.000-08:00

"What feckin part of I could not read your PM's do you not undertand (sic), the PM's (sic)that were shown to me were extracted by [redacted] not myself and I read them in an MSN conversation and not via the forum. Nobody has denied that [redacted] extracted them and [redacted] and I read them, he feckin admitted it himself on the forum when the question was raised and he also posted that I could not do it. But still hare you want to accuse of me of knowing about plug-ins etc, I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT ANY FECKIN PLUG INS.. Get it. So you can take your accusations shove them up your arse and set light to them for all I care Hare, because you are just as bad as twats etc.

And by the way if you realised within 5 minutes that he had installed a plug in why the feck did you not warn me or any of the other mods. You just make me sick.

You saw this happening and never mentioned it to anyone.......thanks a lot hare and by the way whilst we are on the subject, I agreed with you when you were carrying on hell for leather at [redacted], because I thought you were right in what you were saying, he should have taken more responsibility for what he did and for allowing the database to be exposed."

...

"Don't talk over me [redacted], I am here and answering you. I was told by [redacted] he did this because [redacted] was posting comments accusing admin of things and not spilling the beans about what she was supposed to have known, even though he had asked her outright and so had I on various threads. Was it wrong, yes it was, sorry but I was being lead to believe the forum was being compromised and he saw it as a threat and that was his excuse for doing it.

Personally I would have banned [redacted] for not putting up what she was accusing Admin of and got rid of her as a troublemaker.

But hand on heart [redacted], I did not know about any plug-in and I bet I am the only fecker that never downloaded the database that [redacted] exposed. And I never downloaded the database from the links that was exposed by [redacted]'s working practices. My god don't you think I wish I had, because if I had I would have taken that to another host and got shot of him."

You Cannot Be Serious

2010-02-10T01:18:00.000-08:00

Listen up. The Sauce and The Little Birdie are well and currently active.

Get it now? Time to close it. Eddie wins.

Non E Piu (It Is No More)

2010-02-08T16:12:00.000-08:00

The mind of a pitchforker at work.

"Please don't take offence [redacted], but this stems from people wanting the likes of the 3a's (sic) forum off the internet. Underhand tactics were being played by people and instead of the usual pro v anti it turned sinister and started to make anti turn on anti and this was being done via lies and deceit. I know 3a's (sic) is dead and gone but I think we really need to get to the bottom of who was playing all the games because even thought they succeeded with 3a's (sic) it has been a tried and tested measure and it will not be long before they start here. That I am certain of. Already they tried to cause [redacted] problems by faking a PM and making out she was sending it to some mods and not others.

Sorry to say this is just not trolls at work, this is someone who in my opinion is paid to cause all these problems for forums that are discussing the case. Now the only way of really beating them is to expose them and show them up for what they are, deniers of justice."

Trouble At T'Mill

2010-02-06T08:03:00.000-08:00

"No high horse at all. No lecture at all. Read the post - it was not condescending (as from a high horse) nor was it in any way similar to a lecture.

I was simply expressing bafflement at a totally odd post that looked as if it was really a lost pm back to an individual member, who had earlier communicated by email with you, rather than a constructive post. I was expressing the fact that I was unable to understand the post as it seemed to contain references only one other poster might understand. I was not attempting to be rude to you, just making it clear that I was tired and was unable to understand.

As for influence - yes I was a volunteer mod/co-admin on one previous forum. That doesn't give a person a massive amount of influence, you know. The forum owners/admin have the influence and can instantly rid themselves of any mod or co-admin who they no longer want. It was a very time-consuming task. Ask any mod how much time it took to try to keep that forum afloat, especially when on the one hand there were large numbers of posters who had the direct intention of destroying the place and ON THE OTHER HAND THERE WERE POSTERS WHOSE POSTING STYLE WAS OFTEN GUARANTEED TO INFLAME SITUATIONS (either because they were drunk while posting, because they were unable to control their own emotions, or because they were deliberately confrontational).

I did not pull the plug on 3As. I have explained this, as honestly and clearly as I could before, but will repeat it for the benefit of yourself and others who may not have seen that earlier explanation.

At a time when there were only a very small number of largely inexperienced mods and myself around - the leaflets in Rothley affair blew up. I contacted [redacted] without any success whatsoever. He refused to respond - though I know for certain that he was in contact with a former mod of the forum. I had very good advice at the time (later proven absolutely correct) that the content of a large number of posts to that date were liable to be pounced on by certain lawyers (as [redacted] found to his cost (literally)). The moderation team at that point was unable to undertake the work necessary to check and purge the forum. The other co-admin was on holiday. I felt I had no option at all but to close the forum to public view. I explained at the time on the site and in other places what I had done and that I was trying to contact [redacted]. As for pulling the plug - I had no power whatsoever to do that - I had no access to the server or to the facilities to close the forum.

Your insult that I skulked away is also incorrect. One other factor that contributed to my decision to close the forum to public view was that I was booked to go away on holiday (for a month) just a couple of days after I closed it. At that point the 3As which was owned by [redacted] and had one administrator, again [redacted], would have been without any admin or co-admin for a week as my holidays co-incided (sic) with the other co-admin. It would have resulted in a small group of junior mods being responsible for a very busy forum without sufficient powers to be able to deal with problems at a time when such problems were almost inevitable. Therefore I 'parked' the forum. I repeat I did not 'pull the plug'.

As for 'socks'. At the direct request of [redacted] I created one 'sock' which served a testing purpose for him. I also used 2 other 'socks' at a later date. I am afraid my memory does not stretch back far enough to recall how many posts were made, nor have I any method of now checking the facts but I think it was around a dozen - all made with the sole intention of attempting to ensure the safety of the 3As forum - believe it or not.

I stated I had no intention of raising these issues again in the post I made when temporarily (as I thought) closing the 3As forum. Your ill-informed post gave me no option.

And I am not now skulking away - I am going out to enjoy my Sunday breakfast and lunch with friends.

ps - Yes, maybe this post could be described as being from 'on a high horse' but this one was meant to be."

Announcement

2010-02-05T14:55:00.000-08:00

I'd just like to tell you all that I have found a way of reading the secret part.

Just to show you that this is true, I can say that the last thread is murat-fan-has-my-photos-on-her-blog-t7476-75.htm

Remember...

2010-02-04T16:07:00.000-08:00

An announcement will be made on here tomorrow at 3pm PST, 11pm GMT.

February 5th

2010-01-30T02:52:00.000-08:00

There will be a small announcement on here on Friday 5th February.

At 3pm California time.

Infiltrated Did He Say?

2010-01-29T03:35:00.000-08:00

"Just face it, the forum, is well infiltrated, I have a different style of dealing with them than others do, I am a tw@t, they hate me, I don't care, but for all you polite and decent people, I'm prepared to take the hit's (sic), I know some of you don't agree with my style, but please trust me on this, I can see through some of them as soon as they put their first post up."

Yes, of course you can. Not.

Another Silly Plan

2010-01-28T06:27:00.000-08:00

"I'm going to take the forum down for 10 minutes - to see reactions.

going going gone"

Later...

"Well I was hoping all the trolls would be running around like headless chickens....if they did it today with the MF when its only being updated then 2 Maddie forums down in one day would make their week....

little do they know that both are very safe and wont be going anywhere!"

Later...

"I'm sorry if I scared the genuine members here and on others forums but as I said I was getting fed up of the paranoia about the MF on here tonight and seeing people attacking (redacted) on other forums so I made the decision and (redacted) said to use her number!

I only meant to take it down for 10 minutes but I had to take an important phone call so it was a bit longer!"

Little Do They Know

2010-01-27T03:55:00.000-08:00

p: is this the first or second set of ex-mods? (JAT or FTT)

cm: JAT

D: I got my IP banned with JAT and I was only reading! I use a proxy now to have a look at the dreadful threads

cm: lol i use proxys (sic) too

A: Me too now although I cant (sic) from the office....

I'll bet BB1 isnt (sic) boasting about this forum now....as I'm sure none of them can access it!

Sure?

A Small Rant

2010-01-26T03:36:00.000-08:00

"Actually Laffin scrap that previous post, who the hell do you think you are talking to? Just because I won't tell you things that happened between the mods and admin of the 3a's, which is actually NONE of your business, how dare you accuse me of walking away?

If I was walking away, I would have started a forum without a Madeleine section and not sat up for nearly two nights copying the DVD forum over twice so that members could have access to the files.

Your bully boy tactics do not wash with me Laffin, so don't even try it."

It's All A Big Conspiracy Apparently

2010-01-25T03:25:00.000-08:00

"There's so many of them, on at all times of day and night (or rather there were,'til recent bannings (sic) ). I really do believe the majority of them are paid to do it (though some will always do it free as a labour of hate).

It wouldn't suprise (sic) me if either the McCanns or the MMU [Ed: government??] were involved. After all the fund accounts did show an amount spent on a 'poster' campaign, which could possibly be construed in a number of ways. And some disruptions of particular threads have always appeared (to me) to have an orchestrated air about them, in order to try and kill certain thread, there are sometimes patterns, if you look carefully, imo.

There are also, though, those who disrupt purely from mischief and malice and a misplaced sense of 'loyalty' and intellectual superiority."

A Cunning Plan

2010-01-24T09:14:00.000-08:00

"Best way to beat them is imo going underground. I know everyone wants to get the word out but sometimes google can be your enemy as well as your friend. If I was in Debbie and Tony's shoes now, I would completely do a 180 and offer to work alongside the McCann's in order to get the case re-opened and to get Leicester Police active on the case, something we all know the McCann's do not want. And I would definitely bypass Clarence Mitchell in all of this, I know it would cost a bit, but to take an ad out in the British Tabloids and to do a statement and pay for it's print might be away of forcing the McCann's hand. Just imagine what the public's reaction would be if they declined such help. You know thinking about this Tony and Debbie could spin this better than Clarence Mitchell ever could, might mean having to eat humble pie a bit, but with the right phrases and objections, it could put Team McCann in a right old spin, especially if it was printed in every tabloid."

Daft or what?

1-2-3, It's Easy

2010-01-23T15:34:00.000-08:00

"I used to post at the Green board and another tiny private forum, but it's amazing the lengths the "spys" (sic) will go to to get in them."

Lengths? Nah, very simple.

Logically Speaking...

2010-01-22T06:52:00.001-08:00

"I've been looking at the welcome threads to see who is recognised which means zilch seeing as so many have been outed as clones but you can get an indication by it at least!

And no worries if we make a mistake....they are out the moment they get caught in here misbehaving."

Logically speaking, they would only be able to kick someone out if they caught them. If they weren't caught, they'd still be in there. That is unless they kicked some out for other reasons although my source may have eluded that.

Select Users

2010-01-21T15:47:00.000-08:00

"Only select users are allowed in this part of the forum"

It all started last August, a supposed serious supporters section, private, not for everyone's eyes. Eddie has procured this information through a friend.

"So hopefully there will be no arguments.

I have tried adding all of the posters that I feel should be here however I do not know all the 3A members that are trusted so feel free to throw in some usernames I may have forgotten!"

...

"Be carefull (sic), some of them aren't what they seem to be. It's even confusing me and I thought I was a good troll spotter."

So true, my cohorts were there right from the beginning.

Diseased Minds

2009-10-29T22:00:00.000-07:00

In this study we will be researching the diseased and hate addled minds of the 3Arguidos.net website.
A website dedicated to trashing the parents of a missing child.
The mods and admin have promised their members privacy but readily give out information on anyone who is seen as a threat to the official line. And if that doesn't interest you, the backstabbing is excellent, bested only by some of the very interesting adventures enjoyed by various and sundry on other sites. How the worm turns!

A fox hound among the chickens

2009-10-09T14:46:00.000-07:00

Plan as you will, Bren, it's never a sure thing who you can trust, is it?

As you know.

Worth a revisit

2009-09-21T15:55:00.000-07:00

as the tabloids and lawyers hover, we recall our special 200th post:

For Beo, money determines priorities: "Don't expect me to do the same as I do for paying clients that have critical servers managed by me. I know also we should care for members security but its (sic) not a responsability (sic) we should take eavily (sic)." Beo
The Portuguese investigators cleared Robert Murat, but Bren and Bennett have expressed their doubts
If inside info was worth money, Photon’s made Laffin a millionaire.Laffin can’t spell genious (sic)Photon thinks the sexual abuse threads are ‘dangerous.’ But just to the site.
Laffin likes Tony Bennett, but would be happy to know whatever Viv had on him.
Laffin has made specific threats involving Molotov cocktails.
Laffin has made general threats including "I know where some of them live, they'll regret crossing me."
Bren thinks it’s all OK because, after all, people get upset when they’re unfairly accused of shagging goats.
Apparently being unfairly accused of killing your child is something one just sucks up.
Bren’s opinion of Bennett, at some point, was ‘not very high’. Thankfully she is/was bound and determined the forum would not ‘be used as a platform for his campaign.’
Stevo, on an unrelated matter, thinks Bren ‘lost it’Maybe she did. Bren won’t pass on admin info to just anybody, but she’s certainly passed it on to Stevo.
But sometimes she tells him to stop outing members.
Janz says Bren thinks some respected members are ‘mentally challenged.’ Luckily, Janz says Bren doesn’t think that’s a banning offense.
Miffed thinks Bren needs support "despite her clumsiness and sometimes hasty or stupid decisions."
Stevo told Humanist who told Kezwalk ‘Bren owns porn sites’
Bren says she’s never voting BNP. NEVER.
Scylla gave Bren advice on how to rule the forum with an iron hand. I’m glad I’m not her husband.
Bugalugs doesn’t multitask: "All i can say is one day....when my nippers are all grown up......i would do time with great pride for a shot at Kate McCann. You have yourself a merry Christmas too Big L."
Bugalugs, at some point, thought the 3As was "dirty". She'd know from dirty, yeah?
Bugalugs called a most respected member "little lafin arsin"
ShuBob thought the mods were "stifling" debate
Cushty thinks Amaral was ‘mad’ to associate with the 3Arguidos
Estelle cuts and pastes articles even if she "doesn’t believe them."But she gets away with it, others say, because "she's chummy with some mods and bjr"
Beachy "no longer feel(s) the same way I used to feel about 3A." Ga, how long would she blather if she did?
Rival old bagpipe Chimaera bolted on the "embarrassingly unpopular" Oxford event. To be fair, one actually has to get up off one’s arse to attend before one could then bolt.
Chimaera did however get off her arse to do a ghoul run through Rothley. Probably it was on the way.
Doris gets pissed off when respected members are all talk and no action. But really, dear, there’s only so many sheets on a loo roll. Not everybody could have some stuck to their shoe even if they wanted to.
Doris’ pet name for Viv is Andrex.
Doris so hoped someone could add some threats in a bubble coming out of Gerry McCann’s mouth. Potty mouth.
Doris is no Scarlett O'Hara.
Builda will not cyberstalk any woman over 49.
Sez Bren: "Now if I was going to out someone, I would find all the info on the person who I thought they were linked to and go from there."
Also sez Bren: "What is discussed in Mod box about IP tracing etc should stay there."
Abuela gives info on people’s private lives to Tripz, as long as he won’t tell anybody
Stevo and princess_leia cyberinvestigated Vivida
DrachenSachen port scanned. Kinda sorta against the TOS of, oh, every internet service provider on the planet. Except in Russia. Possibly.
Snivelling Mole likes to cyber snoop on Facebook.
Arguida’s rule of thumb is "trust no one" on the site.
Anna Smith's view is "VITRIOLIC WEBSITE FORUM IS HOME FOR SPINELESS COWARDS." Now where did she get that idea?
At the worst of times, one respected member was "scared I might take someone's baby".
People like Tony_Q make Ferretmama ashamed to be British.
Tony_Q pms people things like: what the fuc.k are you going on about now shit.forbrains??
He also doesn’t like the ‘Jew press.’
He remains unbanned.
Even though Captain Moron doesn’t like him.
Captain Moron also doesn’t like to mod alone at night. She doesn’t "know what to do with the weirdos." Mind you, that's all she has left these days, so possibly she's revisited that position. Revisiting is like when someone resigns forever and returns within 48 hours.
On an unrelated matter, Roisin wonders "who the hell" Captain Moron thinks she is.
Mumof5 wonders what 3As members are like real life. Not in a good way.
Hardly anybody has anything good to say about Blossom.
Most days, most members seem to wonder who everybody else is.
Thankfully, they all have an opinion:
Chimaera: SallyGardens is Kay Scarpetta
Chimaera: Granofeleven is Kay Scarpetta
Chimaera: fft is Kay Scarpetta
Blondie2: Earthspirit is Norah and Harmony and FFT and Kay Scarpetta
Logicman: FarFrom is Gerry McCann
Bren: FarFrom is ‘a close family relation from Gerrys (sic) side’
Potsy: Earthspirit is FFT
Blondie2: Earthspirit is a member of Team McCann
Earthspirit: "many of the vile people on this site are team mccann"
Blondie2: Tylersmum is a member of Team McCann
Blonide2: Tylersmum is a team of people
Chrissie: Sentinel is a member of Team McCann
Chrissie: Tripz is a member of Team McCann
Christie: Laffin is a member of Team McCann
Beachy: Gestalt is a member of Team McCann
Foxylady: Caralina, Stinky Sardine and Albym are Team McCann
JillyComeLately: Caralina is a member of Team McCann
LillyoftheValley: nicked is a member of Team McCann
JillyComeLately: nicked is a member of Team McCann
JillyComeLately: " Team McCann had, at the last count 135 chimps/astroturfers/sock puppets on their payroll"
Donna: Emma2 is a member of Team McCann
Sally66: DeBunker is a member of Team McCann
Beachy: DeBunker is justlurking and a member of Team McCann
Potsy: newbie is DeBunker
Coldwater: DeBunker is twiglet1963, RRR, and HarveyHumphries
K4REN171: DeBunker is BJR, Nbrado, Princess Sukita, MoeSzyslak, Nicholass, TIREDOFTHEBS, FarFromThe, Scylla, Justin, Elizabeth, Shoperoo, and Poppyflowers (who also uses the fourm to flood with posts from other sources Plath, Beach, Cookie, Betwise, Tiny, Mairyhinge, Muratslawyer, Muratsglasses, Lindz07, DRACHENSACHEN/Rhodes, and P20)LaffinAssassin: DeBunker is SlyFox
Blackwater: DeBunker is Nbrado
ScotBot: Nbrado is DeBunker in disguise
Vexiana: Rhodes is DeBunker
ShuBob: "To be honest, I can't keep up with these debunker people"
jkh: "who is DeBunker?"
Wiseman: DominicanDave is sammysnake and AliceM
Marian: Tony_Q is Tony Bennett
Marian: Hippychick is CrystalTips and MazMod
Lizzy: ChinaGirl is Kate
Blacksmith: Gestalt is Mumbles
Miffed: Rumpleteaser is Verbatim
Miffed: Positron is Verbatim
Dinsdale Piranha: Verbatim is Wag
UncleMonty: Lovemedo is Verbatim
RRR: Verbatim is positron and snoop and rocket
Miffed: JREWING is Helmetheid
R_MuratsGlasses: Blondie is Nbrado
Blondie2: Nbrado is Grimly
Arguida: Nbrado is DixonCox
Arguida: Nbrado is "a bunch of other people"
RRR: Sir R is Prof Moriarty is SirR
Whatever: SallyGardens is Gardenia
Coldwater: Blossom is Terrybull
Hellothere is TheGoverner and maybe CheeseMaster
Vancouver1: Gestalt is Gerry or one of the T9
SnivellingMole: DairyMilk is Tyra
Rammy: JillyComeLately is Go Get ‘Em Goncalo
LilyoftheValley: Fox is one of the T7 (where’d the other two go? Woof)
Joline: Fox is Rosie
Oldcrone: Truth M’Lud is NurseProstlink
LaffinAssassin: Splodgeboy is Truth M’Lud
Blacksmith: Logicman is Coldwater
Blondie2: Sentinel says Coldwater is PsychicSarah
Rammy: Sentinel is Retribution
Chrissie: Sentinel is Gerry
Sentinel: "they are delusional fools, some of whom believe that i am gerry mccann or Clarence"
But what’s in a name? It’s the thought that counts. And because I’m a sniffer dog, not an air traffic controller, lets 100% let the respected members speak for themselves in the backstabbing department:
"beachy is another fantasist. probably worked in the police typing pool." Sentinel
"Beachy is shocking because she gives quite different life stories to you, which insidiously wrap around your own life. When she realised I was from Suffolk, she fabricated a story about her family home in Ipswich. When I asked her on the Mirror Forum (when I had a different name), she told me a different story, based around Brighton. I have pages of stuff from her, as do others, and they are totally irreconcilable. And her "cases" are complete fiction." JimH
"Beachy is a fraud and judging by the number of supportive pms I've received, I don't think I'm alone in this belief. I have most her pms saved and although it pains me to say it (I do honestly like a lot of her posts), she fabricates stuff in a pathological and disturbing fashion. Even Redsquare (who I think is pretty much impeachable in terms of integrity) thinks she is full of bullshit." Pogacsa
"Hi Laffin is a resident. As a rule of thumb, any name with 3 consonants, or even multple ie 6, will usually be a resident and pro Mccann and/or pro Murat." TTW4
"laffin is a disruptor...believe me..." Tripz
"I am not defending Laffin by any means but you must understand when things like you shag goats are printed on sites it is only natural to get very offended and go after these people." Admin
"you probably see my topic in repsonse to kezwalk whata bitch he/she is" carlymichelle
"Snivelling Mole gets right up my nose, as she just wants to gossip about them in a bitchy way." horsegirl
"Oh Lorriane WTF....Nasty what a bitch (Gran)..." Willow
"you've got to admit that carlymichelle's post are probably the most irritating on the forum... i know the poor lady is ill but...anything to deter her from posting is a good thing no?" astromum
"Bugalugs is a cheeky git - telling me to go and shut the door behind me. Who do these people think they are?" Poppyflowers
"Bugalugs was so rude without reason....didnt realise it was so bad with some people here to be honest..." pinkpixiexx
"He hasn't changed. He was an asshole then, and he's an asshole now. (Nbrado)" Beachy
"OMG have you just seen what he's (Tony_Q) said, although admin have deleted it l thought l'd send it to show you what an idiot we've conversed with tonight." Margaret
"the man's an idiot. you can drive a coach and horses through his arguments. good job he wasn't a barrister." Cushty
"What do you think Stevo's up to? Is he aligned with TB, just playing naive or is he really an idiot?" LittleGreyCell
"TRIPZ is a BULLY and you are no better for sticking up for him." Potatoe Head to jjp
"Sorry, had you (Qwerty) down for a moron for a while - obviously just a pious prick - Daddy"Markmirfin
"I have no time for the ignorant man (Stevo). I can't bear to enter his threads." xxdelly
"Very strange individual (Stevo), I know that some of us could be construed as being a bit obsessed in trying to work out what has happened to Madeleine but multiple websites are obsessive imo." xxdelly
"What a twat. (Stevo) " writer lynn
You have to wonder whether they actually hate the McCanns as much as they hate each other. But they won’t tell you that to your face.
PS: A copper’s advice to Bren: ‘switch off the PC.’
CarlyMichelle is still waiting for an answer on her offer to mod.
Laffin assures us he is of ‘previous good character.’
And I purposely left out the fact that jjp advertises for sex hook ups with couples and says he has an average sized dick. Which is scary because everybody adds at least three inches on the internet.
Really, what is it you awful people actually think you're accomplishing? Even if you were right with your wild, discredited theories, your character wouldn't survive the first paragraph in News of the World.

Our WOOF! here is done...

2009-09-04T15:00:00.000-07:00

Firefox can't find the server at www.the3arguidos.net.

The time has come.

2009-08-19T17:44:00.000-07:00

It is happening.

WOOF!

s.ca*@******.co.uk

2009-08-16T06:22:00.000-07:00

anything we can do to help...

2009-08-16T06:18:00.000-07:00

Subject: FAO BONNYBRAES RE SICKO OF THE DAY

quote=mbkt: yeah i might have been a bit near the bone bonny BUT get off your high horse eh
because i leave the title of sickos of 2 years gerry and kate mccann (redacted... so libelous, so stalkerish, so of interest to the right laywers)

and a title i believe that no normal human being will try to grasp from their greedy hands in my life time.

Hi Laurie

Ignore her - don't waste any energy on that piece of sh1te (excuse my language). You have far better things to do. And you are a far, far better human being than she could ever dream of being.

Take care, Big_L!

Val xx

Hi big_l

As always, it's my pleasure. Keep 'em coming - you're an essential, and formidable, part of the Team. I think some people had their sense of humour surgically removed at birth

Hope you and yours are as well as me and mine.

Take care!

Val xx (aka Photon)

Hey, Big_L

Of course, I read it - and it was of your usual high standard. I love them !

Keep 'em coming!!!

Best wishes

Val xx

Sentinel and Grimley Feendish:

Posters who would not trouble MENSA scorers.

quote=Grimly Feendish

Mumof5 (by different fathers)
CarlyMichelle
Turkishdelight
DelusionalDeVille
Big_l
blondie2

how many times have i stopped myself......

l****1@*o******.co.uk

Lexie O

2009-08-16T06:07:00.001-07:00

lovely woman. Cautious, evidence based, sensible. Lovely woman.

People get sacked for chatting about what goes on at the office

2009-08-16T06:02:00.000-07:00

Funny thing, how the boss so often takes the view what happens at the office stays at the office.

Funny thing, too, the news cycle and the summer doldrums, and how the red tops will run with any angle on a story, just to fill the void. But those in journalism don't need me to remind them of that.

Scotbot and The Academic:

Well KGMC made a big deal about going up to rothley, i forget what the occasion was, i think it was just before last christmas.

she was "they want me to go" & "i think I am going" & "yes I am going" & "I am going now".

the next day m****** was the only person in rothley, she was on at about 7am and looked freezing bless her. I know she is only a fairly junior journo but it only takes one to think "oh hang on a mo".

I also know she works with I** S**** and they used to speak at work. i liked ian spleen but it would take quite a youthful journo to make smalltalk with that nutter i reckon.

Did you ever find out who KGMC2007 was?

I always thought it was M******* S*******.

Well not always but after having an educated guess

TA

If I were a betting dog...

2009-08-15T16:56:00.001-07:00

I'd bet there's a good chance you know who turns her tail between her legs retreat into a half Nelson somersault flounce and returns soon with a 'at last the troof can be told about what they done to me and my god how they forced me out of this forum that I love and my god is the true voice for Madeleine Beth McCann."

Treasure, a word of advice: you might just get away with all you done if you just sit quietly in the lounge and have another fag. Besides which, if you go back to the computer you might miss your chance to nail whoever's stalking the bin in your front garden my god.

The tabloid feeding frenzy begins

2009-08-15T16:16:00.000-07:00

From the Sunday Express

By James Murray

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A woman leading a leaflet campaign about Madeleine McCann has left the girl’s parents distraught.

The couple spent yesterday with lawyers and may call in police after Debbie Butler visited the road where they live in Rothley, Leicestershire, to deliver highly inflammatory leaflets to neighbours suggesting that Madeleine was not abducted.

“Angry and upset” Kate and Gerry McCann are consulting their lawyers about how to react to last week’s extraordinary late-night leaflet drop which involved 10 people.

As well as discussing an action for libel, the McCanns want to know if there are grounds to pursue a harassment action and are considering calling in police.

Although single mother-of-two Ms Butler, 45, decided not to post the leaflet through the couple’s letterbox, a copy was sent to Kate’s aunt and uncle, Brian and Janet Kennedy, who live just a mile away in the same village.

A source close to the couple said yesterday: “Kate and Gerry are very upset and angry over these despicable lies. They feel they are being persecuted. This time the group has gone too far.

“They are now considering legal action over the leaflets. It is a clear case of harassment, indirectly if not directly. It must now become a police matter.

“Brian Kennedy thought it was outrageous and immediately contacted Kate. He had lots of calls from confused villagers who had received leaflets, asking what was going on. It caused pain, upset and confusion.”

However, Ms Butler, who admits involvement in the leaflet drop, said last night: “We just want the case reopened. We are not out to persecute the McCanns.

“We haven’t harassed them at all, we have leafleted. We are not harassing the McCanns in any way whatsoever. We are not stalking them. We are getting facts out in the public domain.

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“If anything, we are helping them by putting the facts out there and attempting to get the case back off the shelf. We are assisting the McCanns.”

Ms Butler, of Maidstone, Kent, has a daughter of 23 and an adopted son, aged eight.

She is chairman of the so-called Madeleine Foundation, formed in July last year and works closely with the foundation’s secretary, solicitor Tony Bennett, 61, who lives in Harlow, Essex.

He and the group tried to bring a private prosection against the McCanns for neglect but it was thrown out of court.

In Rothley many of the McCanns’ neighbours said they were disgusted by the insensitive actions of the group.

Sandra Thompson, 51, who lives nearby, said: “It is pretty disgraceful that a group writes that stuff and then sends it to the neighbours of Gerry and Kate.

“It is obviously going to drum up hate for the family and I imagine that they are still going through hell.”

In a statement Kate and Gerry, who are both 41, said: “We feel it is important that the general public are made aware that the Madeleine Foundation has no connection whatsoever with our family or those helping us to find Madeleine, or any law enforcement agencies or child welfare organisations.

“We also strongly believe that the actions of this so-called organisation do not have Madeleine’s best interests at heart.

“If anything, it is hindering all of our efforts to find Madeline and to achieve justice.”

Madeleine was nearly four when she went missing from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal on May 3, 2007, while her parents dined with friends nearby.

Last night their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “Libel lawyers acting for Kate and Gerry are very well aware of the Madeleine Foundation and all its activities and continue to monitor everything they do and say.”

Yesterday copies of the leaflet that had been pinned to trees and notice boards in Rothley had all been torn down.

Oh, yeah, erm, maybe I wrote something to that effect...

2009-08-15T11:29:00.001-07:00

We recall the words of dear Stevo:

"Tony is a do-er, not just a talker. I'm so chuffed for him and Debbie. It's taken a year to prove that his intentions have always been honourable and now we're reaping the hard work he's been sowing in the background.

And, I might add - it's only just beginning. Yesterday won't be the last time Tony Bennett is LITERALLY breathing down Gerald McCann's neck!"

Right you are, my good man. So chuffed for you ALL.

We're not in this together but we certainly seem to be in it at the same time...

2009-08-15T11:21:00.000-07:00

Are "Respected Members" being stitched up?

The oracle has allegedly written: "It (the Rothley love note) was effectively written by 3As members, and we compiled it."

effectively written by 3As members, and we compiled it

effectively written by 3As members, and we compiled it

Anyone of a mind to ask if the matter comes to court where your fearless leader intends to point the finger?

Oh, dear, I suppose I might have said something like that...

2009-08-15T07:55:00.001-07:00

precious memories, preserved forever:

Tony B to Tony_Q
Subject: E-mail from Graham Northgate of Clegg Gifford - and reply

Tony Bennett: I have this morning received this further reply from Mr Northgate (verbatim):

Sir,

It is my right to disagree and I couldn't disagree more.

What right have you to say any of these things?

And when they find out what really happened to her...they are progressing very nicely...I expect a full apology towards the family from your good self.

Kind regards

Graham

Any chance of you letting me field this one Tony?
I'm just in the mood for a **** like this.

Why don't you give him a ring, I published his Tel. No. in the OP

Is that your 'hearty disapproval', Tony?

TOO HOT TO USERNAME XI

2009-08-15T07:48:00.000-07:00

"XXXXX just moaned to me could XXX lose XXX benefits if XXX gets carded in all this. Bloody hell! What about the rest of us, proper English, with actual assets against which a decision could be attached?! The cheek of the creature! I always thought her perhaps a bit thick. I still have no idea how to respond. You don't actually think we could get drawn into any legal action, do you?"

TOO HOT TO USERNAME X

2009-08-15T07:22:00.000-07:00

"I believe there is nothing to fear. Living in America, of course, I cannot be touched in any event."

TOO HOT TO USERNAME IX

2009-08-15T07:20:00.000-07:00

".... but regular members can't get into real trouble, can they? They couldn't take away my benefits could they?"

TOO HOT TO USERNAME VIII

2009-08-15T07:17:00.000-07:00

"I'm scared $hitless over the Mail! I don't know whether to delete everything I have or save it in hope it's a way to give them bigger fish? What would you do? I never meant no harm. I went with the group. My OH will murder me if I get drawn into this!"

Slowly, slowly, catchee monkey... indeed

2009-08-15T07:12:00.001-07:00

It's all going to come out now, isn't it?

And not just the follicularly challenged puppet master, the lot of you, from Oompa Loompa to Thug and Lady MacBeth to the Scouser authoress.

Shame so many databases floating about. Shame "security" is a word that requires quotation marks.

Swallow hard, dears, it just got more interesting than it has been in a long, long while.

For the collectors.....

2009-08-14T22:38:00.000-07:00

Bombshell?

2009-08-14T21:07:00.000-07:00

"I tell you in confidence, having come to genuinely trust you, that nothing since March has occurred accidentally here, nor for some time prior. There have been one or two mishaps which were unanticipated, however we managed through well enough in my view. Better to be Mayor of the Palace than Chairman of anything, particularly when a reporter comes calling. "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?" and such. As to the other one, yes, I believe she is gone for good. It's taken long enough. Although no doubt we can be assured of occasional amateur dramatics. "

So why is she there again, a rearguard action?

2009-07-27T14:04:00.000-07:00

Hi jypsybear, I wouldn't trust Anthony Bennett as far as I could spit.

This is a personal and political view. I was very active in the Labour Party for over 30 years - Constituency Secretary and Chair, official candidate at elections (albeit in a True Blue stockbroker-belt constituency) Annual Conf delegate, Women's Conf Delegate blah blah blah until Tony Blair was imposed on the party, when I resigned.

Anthony Bennet was a member of the Labour Party for a number of years before he more or less got thrown out. Let's just say, I encountered him more times than I care to remember.

I loathe the man. IMO he's an opportunistic, self-seeking, self-publicising fool who will jump on any passing bandwagon as a platform and springboard for to promote his own vile extreme right-wing agenda. (I would bracket him with the Neo-Cons).

Don't take my word for it though, you must make up your own mind

Jilly

TOO HOT TO USERNAME VII

2009-07-25T10:06:00.001-07:00

".... I thought that pm where Marian called Maddy "Mandolin" was disgusting. I've always found her crude however I never imagined she'd do a dirty turn to a missing child. She's always been a bitch of the first order and I don't mind saying as much to you now. She works with drug and alcohol dependents. Can you imagine the kind of help that walrus provides? (emoticons redacted.)...."

TOO HOT TO USERNAME VI

2009-07-25T10:04:00.000-07:00

Honestly xxxx I couldn't believe it myself but xxx sent me the link. His username is xxxxxxx on the site and he likes to get girls to sit on his face!! It's true. I mean, how disgusting is that? AT HIS AGE!!!! Yuck. I'll p.m. you the link, hang on. Just have a bucket ready, it's tough going and I suspect you'll stop half way through. Honestly, who woulda thought. xxxxx

TOO HOT TO USERNAME V

2009-07-23T20:18:00.000-07:00

"...if I can't convince them big is beautiful I assure them there is nothing big won't do... lol."

Lose the plot much?

2009-07-23T20:16:00.000-07:00

Ratonthebeam to some no hoper...

Hello Lizzy! Even before I opened this email, I thought, now THERE's a name from the past!!! Good to "see" you again.

Viv has always been very disparaging of TB from Day 1. She sees him as a self-promoting attention seeker and has concerns that any action he takes might muddy the waters, and give the Mcs the chance to squeal that they are not getting a fair trial.

I can see her point sometimes, but I think there's a "personal" element too. I have no idea why she seems to have changed opinion that Madeleine may not be dead. That one puzzles me, TBH, I am not sure why she takes TB to task so much for assuming that M is dead, asit's an assumption everybody else seems to be making!

I would like to BELIEVE that there is a parallel UK investigation going on, but sadly I don't think there is. Again, I don't know Viv's grounds for believing that, unless she has some inside info that we are not party to.

I myself have some reservations re Tony, but on the whole I am a supporter. Like him or loathe him, he has breathed new life into this Forum and investigation, and for that alone he is to be applauded. With the things going on right now in Portugal, I am actually feeling more hopeful than I have done in a very long time.

There are also a number of people on here dissing Duarte Levy, but my gut instinct is to trust him, I think he is being done a terrible disservice here.

PM me anytime Lizzy, and mazel tov for your new home!

Chrissie xx

Be careful out there!

2009-07-23T20:14:00.001-07:00

Ratonthebeam to Doppelganger:

Doppel,
I am afraid I am as baffled as you! Like I said yesterday, I haven't been on ST's site for weeks, not even to look on it, let alone post on it. I can assure you quite categorically that any "threats" made there are most certainly not by me! The only posts I have been making in the past week or so have been on Viv's site and the 3As. I know you have a history with Viv so I didn't even mention to anyone there that I had spoken to you in PMs. So the leak has most definitely not come from me! Maybe it's just some troll who has taken a random guess and got lucky? It is an outside chance, but not impossible. Be careful out there!
Best regards
Ellen

What would Lexie O' think of this talk?

2009-07-23T16:17:00.000-07:00

Have you gone mad.

You have known traveller was my OH since the mirror forum days you stupid Alzheimer's bastard.

Or is your own ego so stuffed up your own arse you can't remember who you're talking to?

I have run this forum with you when there was no cunt who would even write on it during the days when the news were deader than Mandolin.

Now get a grip. People here are nice to you, you sociopath, be nice back for once.

Marian

You fucking bastard how very dare you???

I get YOU to feel sorry for my moderating husband who just lies sulking till YOU insult him and you tell ME I am management.

Cunt.

Love Marianxx

I beat you to it and already got a teacher just 2 minutes ago.

Now piss off.

Love Marianxx

TOO HOT TO USERNAME IV

2009-07-23T15:57:00.001-07:00

"OMG I stopped thinking they done it about a year ago but its good for my blood pressure to come here and rip the piss out of them. Fucking high flying doctors deserve a good rumbling."

TOO HOT TO USERNAME III

2009-07-23T15:56:00.000-07:00

"....Look I think they are guilty as sin but these nutters that go by their house, how would they like it? I don't kid myself we're doing anything here. It was the police's job and the PJ botched it worse than Chamberlain ever did. Poor mite! That's between u n me unless Bren really does read r pms. I'm a bit weary of her, tbh."

That was then, of course...

2009-07-23T08:01:00.000-07:00

Bren to Traveller:

I have been to hell and back over this last month along with the other mods and we are not going back down this route again and having things dragged up from the past.

But I would still appreciate an answer as to why Marian posted up that you and her were leaving without even having the decency to discuss it with me.

Yes you are seeing a whole new Bren, one that is not going to be manipulated and one that is in charge of this set up whether certain people like it or not. I am sorry it has come to this Graeme but you are being totally unfair and biased towards Pat and I will not accept that. Pat is honest, loyal and what you see is what you get, and I would prefer to work with Pat any day of the week than work with someone like Jan and her friends who are liars, cheats and deceivers. I am sorry Graeme but I have removed your permissions, this is exactly how things were going on before all this trouble, mods deciding who they can work with and who will go and I am not going back down that road again. To read on the forum that you and Marian were leaving was the final straw. All I have ever asked for is honesty and transparency but today I realised that I would not be getting that. Pat has done nobody any wrong, her only failing was to speak up for those that have been frightened to or for those that she could see were being manipulated, she does not deserve this treatment and I will not stand back and see her treated like this again. We knew damn well Jan would probably try and get to you like she got to the other mods but hey that is your perogative if you wish to believe her I can not force anybody to believe me or the other mods, even though we are speaking the truth. You do not not know what mind games have been played on each and everyone of us. Just cast your mind back to when Pat first joined us, she was NEVER like this, but those that had an ulterior motive have hurt her more than anyone can imagine. They have instilled on other mods that Pat is a monster and there is no way that Pat is that and I will not have that said to her. Because you don't know how much my head was screwed and you don't know how much she worked to help me out, even after what I had done to her and how she held things altogether for me and most importantly for this forum so Maddie can have a voice. And for that I will be enternally grateful to Pat for.

Bennett - hypocrisy and lies

2009-07-22T14:39:00.000-07:00

What he says now:

However, I will add to that, that none of the people I know who share my views about what really happened to Madeleine McCann would even dream of sending you threatening e-mails, letters or telephone calls. I would heartily disapprove of anyone who even thought of doing that to you

And what he said then:

Tony B to Tony_Q
Subject: E-mail from Graham Northgate of Clegg Gifford - and reply

Tony Bennett: I have this morning received this further reply from Mr Northgate (verbatim):

Sir,

It is my right to disagree and I couldn't disagree more.

What right have you to say any of these things?

And when they find out what really happened to her...they are progressing very nicely...I expect a full apology towards the family from your good self.

Kind regards

Graham

Any chance of you letting me field this one Tony?
I'm just in the mood for a **** like this.

Why don't you give him a ring, I published his Tel. No. in the OP

Is that your 'hearty disapproval', Tony?

Our new feature: TOO HOT TO USERNAME!

2009-07-21T17:40:00.000-07:00

After much thought, and knawing on a rawhide, I can no longer ignore Keela's alerts to the really really really really really really tail wagging, dog in heat, leg humpers of a post!

So today we unveil "TOO HOT TO USERNAME!", posts that only Springer could love.

Enjoy. Sadly, there's far too many more where this came from! WOOF!

"...I know! It is so unfair! He works for hours a day (and night!) doing his bit and truth be told he isn't entirely well. I mean mentally. He's on the side of the angels, though, and has my whole support. Unless he does something a step too far. However, he never seems to. You must not tell anyone what I've said here, please. I also agree with your point about bren. These constant flounces are farcical. From our vantage point she will at some point flounce one time too many. At that point, we'll be in a position to run things properly, although from a distance. It is fundamental, of course, we keep our interests reasonably apart as it wouldn't look too well on our efforts to be tied directly to this site as persons in authority. Even those with political expertise are finding themselves with new lessons learned since we joined up here!"

TOO HOT TO USERNAME II

2009-07-21T17:39:00.000-07:00

"... my OH sez we're all dirty nutters here. My bitch sister-in-law seen me on here one afternoon, snooped around, and told him. Fucking whore bitch. I'd throw a can of cider at her ugly gob next time she comes round but I need to cope with that fucking family. I'd divorce the lot excpet it wud cost me more than I'd get. We weren't much in the world but somehow I managed to marry down regardless."

"One of Gran’s PMs to me"

2009-07-21T17:31:00.000-07:00

Oh blimey Angela. I have just had the most terrible PM from Gran. Oh my God. It is so so terrible. She is a total bitch. Bluddy hell. I am shocked. Well she can go fizz.

I have my own life to get on with. I can do without this piss.

Love Lxx

She was a bitch. I just cannot talk about it Angela.

Oh well, I will copy one of them to you. Hang on a mo and I will go copy it and send it.
Love L xx

I meant TRAVELLER the mod. Is that who you meant? Oh God. She is a witch. the bluddy bitch. Well, I don't honestly care Angela. I really don't I have Bob and that is all I care about. I hope I still have you as a friend. I will never ever trust anyone on the internet again.
Love L xx

She chose her day well didn't she Angela? The bitch. She is evil.

OMG GRAN IS TRAVELLER. I got it now. Bluddy hell. Traveller was a mod on here - don't know if he still is or not. Bluddy hell. She has just given it away in her PM to me. My GOD. What a bluddy bitch. I shall ask bjr to delete me from this forum
Love L xx

Happygirl24 writes to the PM - I hope you all have a chair ready

2009-07-18T15:02:00.000-07:00

To Mr Gordon Brown, Prime Minister
Dear Mr Brown,

I write to inform you that I have personally conducted a poll , in various cities, asking just the ONE question: "Do you believe that the McCanns were involved in the disappearance of "their" daughter Madeleine McCann - please answer YES or NO"
The results were as follows:-
xx%......YES
xx%........NO
xx%........UNDECIDED or MAYBE
It has been drawn to my attention that my own opinion poll, conducted in recent weeks, is in line with several other previous "opinion" polls on the subject.
For example, in September 2007, ICM asked 1,000 respondents whether they thought the McCanns were telling the "truth" about the disappearance of their daughter. 80% said 'No'.
Then, a month later, after a long interview with the "McCanns" on a Spanish TV programme, viewers were asked the simple question: 'Do you think the McCanns are telling the truth, or lying? 70% said: 'Lying'.
In December 2007, after an unsuccessful attempt was made to bring the McCanns to court for the offence of child neglect, the "Daily Star"' ran a telepoll on the "subject". The question was: 'Should the McCanns be prosecuted for child neglect?' In that poll, 96% said: 'yes'.
With these statistics in mind, which are very consistent, and with the aim of getting JUSTICE for Madeleine, I propose the following:-

That you, as prime Minister, and ultimately responsible for all police and security services in the UK, instruct the relevant agencies to further investigate the McCanns and their friends who were with them in Portugal, with the sole intention of finding the TRUTH about a UK citizen that has disappeared - namely Madeleine McCann.

I suggest that it is simply not good enough for two doctors to go abroad with THREE children and return with TWO, claiming the third child has been abducted, and the UK authorities believe them because "they said so, so that must be right!" when it is plain that there is a mass of evidence which suggests that Madeleine McCann perished in her parents' apartment in Portugal. I am concerned that the investigating agencies have abandoned their investigation. I wish you to ensure that those investigations are recommenced forthwith.
There is absolutely no proof of an abduction, indeed the files totally discount that, and if the McCanns HAVE proof there was an abuction we believe they should provide irrefutable evidence of that event happening.
Not just to say "it happened.........so thats it"
What i find very strange is the fact that the McCanns COULD have asked the police to re-open the case on 20th September 2008 and did not! Given their stated aims to investigate her disappearance for the rest of their lives. Perhaps you could ask them WHY they haven't asked for the case to be re-opened.(which they are entitled to do) and use all the options available to them.
Now we read, with incredulity, that today 15/12/2008 that the McCanns are scaling back their efforts to find Madeleine.How can ANY parent scale back the search for their missing child Mr Brown? They have access to millions of pounds and even more from their backers and they are "scaling back"? Somethings not right here and needs investigating with the full vigour of the law. Or, as we believe. there was never a search to begin with, because the McCanns were involved with, and know exactly, what happened to Madeleine on 3rd May 2007.
If there is no further investigation, and if the McCanns are not charged with any offence, not even with child neglect for admittedly leaving three young children on their own six evenings in a row, then, given the strength of feeling of myself and many many others about this case, and the McCanns' behaviour since May 2007, I will feel compelled to do the following:-

1) To set up a "single issue" party, with the following intention.
2) To stand in the next General Election under the name "Justice for Madeleine"
3) To target, given the constituency boundary changes, the 30 most vunerable Labour MP's, by majority from (1) Ms L.J. Moffatt, Crawley (maj. 37), (2) Mr. B. Rammell, Harlow (maj. 97) to (30) Ms K.C.J. Mountford (maj. 1501)
4) To stand a candidate against Ms. Jacqui J. Smith, Redditch (maj. 2716) as we believe the said MP has impeded the investigation by obstructing the Portuguese police in their investigation.

We will not be standing to win the seats targeted, but only to try ensure that we win the current majority, and that the Labour candidates do not win them. With 94% believing the McCanns were involved in their daughter's disappearnce, and the government, in our opinion, having actively interfered in the investigation and seemingly not wanting to achieve justice for Madeleine, then, based on our polls, our hope is that the sitting MP will lose their seat. We will ,of course, gratefully accept votes from other disaffected voters, from all parties, that also believe a grave injustice has been commited in Madeleines' case.

I am, and always have been, a Labour supporter, but this case has the word 'injustice' written all over it. By doing nothing, Prime Minister, you are encouraging that injustice to continue.

As you and Foreign Secretary, David Miliband have, publicly, given your 'total support' to the McCanns, how are you able to espouse "fairness and justice for ALL children". Where is that "fairness and justice" for Madeleine?
The political climate will change and the McCanns percieved support from the establishment will wane rapidly.

Have you, Prime Minister, also been hoodwinked by the McCanns' formidable PR machine?
Mr Brown, we believe you may have been kept, out of the loop, so to speak, and have not been made aware of various facts discovered since the files were "made" public.

As stated, 94% of people believe the McCanns were involved with Madeleine's disappearance and this must "surely" include 94% of the members of all of the three major political parties at Westminister.
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We have also spoken to many police officers and they too (94% of them) believe the McCanns were involved. Many of these police officers also believe that the McCanns must be investigated by an independent "police" force, as Leicestershire Police are obviously linked to the McCanns by linking their own website to the McCanns' official website.

The McCanns have asked for and received huge sums of money from the general public, including from a group of handicapped children, money raised through "tremendous" effort, and have used that money to make mortgage re-payments on their five-bedroomed house.
Those handicapped children thought that, as did many others, their hard earned money would be used (given the McCanns' stated aims), to 'fund' the search for Madeleine, "NOT" for them to misappropriate those funds to finance THEIR lavish lifestyle!

I would also request that "you" set up an immediate investigation by the Secretary of State for Business, Eneteprise and Regulatory Reform into the private trust company known as the Find Madeleine Trust Fund. Was it based on an initial deception? How "much money" has the fund received from the public, and has it been spent, as claimed, on finding Madeleine, or used for other purpsoes? we believe the fund is fraudulent and a cover for an elaborate scam, in which little Madeleine has been placed in the centre of.
The McCanns may have their wealthy and powerful "backers". We too, have ours, "vast numbers" of them, who want to see justice done for this little girl, but shun the publicity the McCann "backers" seek. Our backers want to see justice done, not to promote themselves, as the McCann "backers/celebrities" seek to do at every opportunity.
We have, after research, associated at least 60 people that, in our opinion, are using the fund for their "own" ends. From the McCanns, family and friends, the board of the fund and many others, whose names we will publish in due course.
The McCanns official spokesman , Clarence Mitchell, is on record asking for people to "stuff money into envelopes" and send to the McCanns home in Rothley. We assume by doing this they (the McCanns) would avoid having to account for it and "pay tax" on it as the Inland Revenue won't be able to prove how much they have received by this "method"
Mr. Mitchell also states the McCanns paid agencies £50,000 a month but the McCanns, themselves, say it was £100,000 a month. Which one is "lieing"; Can't both be right! We believe they have "received" in excess of £4 million pounds, have "spent" ,so they SAY, £1 million, have £500,000 left in fund so have at least £2,500,000 UNACCOUNTED for!
Also there is absolutely no PROOF that a single penny donated to the "fund" has been spent on any sort of search.
Maybe this would be a good starting point to investigate from!
We humbly suggest, when you instruct, that this case be re-investigted, the first people to be re-interviewed will be J. Tanner and R. O'Brien.
I am asking you now, "Prime" Minister, to "investigate" this matter very urgently, before the McCanns stated aim to make another appeal and take/accept more donations/pocket money from vunerable children this Christmas time. (to fund a non exsistent search)

We have the necessary "funds" for our election deposits and other expenses secured. We have access to the Portuguese police files (legitimately in the public domain) which are revealing about what really happened to Madeleine in Portugal. We also have leaflets in production, stating our beliefs and facts about the McCanns, and the massive contradictions by the, so called, "Tapas 7" and their ever-changing versions of events, given in "their" statements, about what actually happened, on the night of 3rd May 2007 "in" the holiday resort of PDL, Portugal.

We are entitled to a free mail drop at election time, to enable us to deliver our message/leaflets to EVERY household in our target areas.
We have, and you probably wouldn't know this, "have" written testimony from a former Metedo3 investigator, hired by the McCanns, to direct British journalists to meet pre-selected, paid by the "fund", "witnesses" with the aim to promote the acceptance of an abduction and to be persuaded to investigate in Morocco and Spain rather than Portugal.
We have also discovered a, tentative, link between the McCanns (on Kates side) and the Murat family and David Symington.(Ocean Club, PDL) This, we assume, maybe why the McCanns and R Murat have NOT asked for the case to be re-opened.
http://uk.youtube.com(linky)
A simple YES or NO would have done! If you ask someome if they know "that" person ,over the road, they do NOT say "I'm not going to comment on that" They either know them or not. Thats it. Could M have been taken to RM house before disappearing
As we delve deeper into this, IOP, scam, we are building up a very large picture of who knew who and who knew what. This seems to be going right to the top" of people in positions of power in the UK. As we "uncover" more facts and names involved we will "name and shame"
The wider electorate isn't, as far as we know, aware of these facts given that the UK press has seen fit to suppress this information.
These facts are included in our leaflets so everyone will be able to decide for themselves what is or isn't fact.

We believe the McCanns were not only invovled in Madeleine's demise and disappearance, but the concealment of her body, with the intention of perverting the course of justice.They have we believe, also added insult to injury by all the things they have done since. Raising monies through appeals, knowing - as we believe they do - what has happened to their child, is abhorrent.

If, as I have stated we do a "Martin Bell' and stand at the next General Election on this "single" issue and win the support of the many who feel strongly on this issue, this alone could topple this government and lose it the next election.

Ignore this, if you wish, do nothing, if you wish, BUT please, please please don't say, to the MPs we will be standing against, (if the McCanns are NOT investigated by an independant police force, as Leicestershire Police force are linked to the McCanns, thru their OFFICIAL website, which may well be ILLEGAL) that YOU, Mr Brown, didn't think "that would happen" or that "nobody TOLD me"
Finally, Mr Brown, we believe that the McCanns have contributed to increased child snatch attempts by not condemning people that attempt these snatches under the "guise" of "we thought it was Madeleine"
Far from increasing protection for children, they have put many, many, more children at risk.
They are, actually, condoning, treating as acceptable, these attempted snatches. (by people only trying to claim the reward money on offer)
We know of 4 attempted "snatches" to "date" and will be investigating more.
Hardly within the realms of "responsible parenting", I suggest.
I will sending a copy of this e-mail next week to David Cameron and Nick Clegg, and the 30 MPs plus Ms Smith against whom we will be standing.
We will carry on our "campaign" FOREVER, if thats what it takes, to get justice for Maddy, no matter which "party" is governing.

I implore you, Prime Minister, to take action now to get JUSTICE for Madeleine.
Yours sincerely,

happygirl24.

Eddie apologises deeply for wasting several minutes of his readers' precious lives on this drivel, only he did have a request :-)

A fkn Civil Servant in a fkn shiny suit

2009-07-18T14:51:00.000-07:00

Prof Moriarty:

I stopped wearing jeans decades ago and havent gone back. Nothing against them particularly though. Ive got used to suits ,well, two suits really. I need another one quickly as one is starting to get shiny and embarrassing.
All this is written on the company time, which is rather naughty of me. Still, I was at least able to get a bit of posting done on 3As at the weekend, which was refreshing. A bit of anger and frustration never goes amiss.
This is very trite stuff I know.

Indeed, it was so fkn awfully trite I had to edit most of it out. And while the truth about what happened to Madeleine Mccann cannot be found in your inbox, the truth about who told some of the biggest lies in the case can be found in other people's.

More harassment to come, Stevo can't wait

2009-07-15T09:42:00.000-07:00

LillyoftheValley to Stevo:

Stevo, they really cant stand it can they, we march on regardless but one thing is for sure you can tell when we get their (Team Mccann) backs up cant you!

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MR BENNETT AND THE MADELEINE FOUNDATION

Stevo replies:

Yep!

It's called "voting with your feet. People like Mr McCann who thinks you can unturn stones from the comfort of your living room are mistaken.

Tony is a do-er, not just a talker. I'm so chuffed for him and Debbie. It's taken a year to prove that his intentions have always been honourable and now we're reaping the hard work he's been sowing in the background.

And, I might add - it's only just beginning. Yesterday won't be the last time Tony Bennett is LITERALLY breathing down Gerald McCann's neck!

Personally Stevo, I wouldn't try that one too often - we have laws against it in the UK

Ah, the good old days. Whatever happened to them?

2009-07-15T09:40:00.001-07:00

Bren to fedupwaiting:

It was pulled by a mod, Tony Bennett likes us to discuss his campaigns but once someone mentions anything about him or his reasons for doing the campaign Admin get loads of e-mails from him complaining. So we have decided you can't have it both ways, either we are allowed to discuss everything or nothing, so he carried on complaining so we decided to stop all discussion about his campaign and the Madeleine Foundation.

So this is how he operated?

2009-07-12T12:37:00.000-07:00

Mrc

Well done, Magali, you're a star. Congratulations -you're someone who really goes ahead and gets things done. V annoying about the mods, sorry no time to post just now - I'm swamped out with work. The mods are incredibly obtuse. Got to be quick, but I've one or two ideas for you:

IDEA

1) Being French, you could get direct access to D. Levy (who runs SOS Maddie) and inside information on the case that nobody but a select few can get. You could also ask him directly about the multiple maddie issue, and he might be willing to give you inside info that could be published on your thread (you would definitely need permission). Here's how to do it, if you're interested:

a) Sign up to join the SOS Maddie forum and make some posts

b) PM the mods and ask if you can join in the late night MSN sessions that Levy runs. These are for trusted posters (anti-McCann) who must guarantee that they will not publicize what he divulges. However, certain information may be divulged, with his permission. I went on these sessions a few times when I was a member, before I transferred to MF - was amazed at the info that came out to these MSN sessions. You could raise the issue of the multiple maddies and discuss fully - he will know the truth - had direct links to the PJ.

(Redacted stupid squit about photos and different 'versions' of Madeleine)

Let me know what happens with your approaches. Unfortunately, Reis is still away from his blog, also Levy has never answered the 2 emails I sent. Far better to get hold of him on an MSN session.

A Bientot!

So how does one get a press card?

2009-07-12T12:30:00.000-07:00

Hi Bjr,

I've decided to send you this PM, after reading Levy's thread and another one I can't remember the title. Both are locked, so, I couldn't post.

However, I think I need to clarify one thing about 'journalist sources' and the way it works in Portugal. In Portugal, asking a journalist to tell what are his/her sources, is considered lack of ethics. So, each time, someone starts to doubt on someone and what that person posts/writes on articles, it's raining in the wet, as I use to say. Even Courts of Law can't ask that question.They are actually protected by the journalism Law in Portugal. If the person is really a journalist (even free lancer) and holds a Press Card, it's no use to ask for his/her sources. Not even in a Court they'd revealed anything, and, there's already lots of cases where Courts of Law tried to know what were the sources to no avail. Law gives them protection.

So, in my humble opinion, some posters didn't follow the right path, when they started to question the veracity of Levy, Paulo Reis or even another friend they have (never posted on the forum) author of more than one publication about Madeleine McCann. They're all journalists, I can garantee you.

Anyway, hope you understand what I mean. A journalist will never, ever reveal the source, neither the way he got the info. The only thing we can do is to believe it or not.

Best regards,

F. Soares

TB's 'burn-out' and Laffin's threats

2009-07-12T12:20:00.000-07:00

I aren't bothered if Tony has had “Burn-out” problems in the past, he's doing a good job for Maddy at the moment. I spoke on the phone with Tony just before Easter and found him pleasent enough. If or went I get hold of some of them other “posters” on other sites, and I know where some of them live, they'll regret crossing me.